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[STEMO]

How come Renault seem to have gotten to grips with this 'problem' when other manufacturers still put drivers through the mill? Have they kidded the powers that be into letting cars on to the roads by submitting their own data? Are their cars as clean as they claim? Or does their system genuinely work?
No one on the captur or juke forums has had any problems, some people claiming to have only done town driving for 10000 miles or more.
If you can get past the 'French shite' mentality and have any constructive input, that would be great. I am genuinely stumped as to how the DPF on the 1.5dci can work in everyday use where others do not.
I know that they use a fifth injector directly into the filter to raise the temperature, but that is hardly rocket science.

[X30XE]

Frig knows... Must be the only thing that does work.  When was the last time you saw a renault laguna? They sold enough, post 2000 even. They're ALL dead now. 

Perhaps it's simply the case that they've patented the only system that works and thus everyone else is screwed? 

[STEMO]

Frig knows... Must be the only thing that does work.  When was the last time you saw a renault laguna? They sold enough, post 2000 even. They're ALL dead now. 

Perhaps it's simply the case that they've patented the only system that works and thus everyone else is screwed? 

The latest lagunas looked great (in my opinion), followed one the other day and, from the back, it resembled a jag or Aston Martin. They were expensive, and you could get much more for the same money.
Back to the op, Mark seemed to think that this system was not that new. Nissan, of course, use the same engine in the Juke, Note and Quashqai. Renault use it in the clit and Megane. Just seems strange that other marques are still having problems.

[X30XE]

Frig knows... Must be the only thing that does work.  When was the last time you saw a renault laguna? They sold enough, post 2000 even. They're ALL dead now. 

Perhaps it's simply the case that they've patented the only system that works and thus everyone else is screwed? 

The latest lagunas looked great (in my opinion), followed one the other day and, from the back, it resembled a jag or Aston Martin. They were expensive, and you could get much more for the same money.
Back to the op, Mark seemed to think that this system was not that new. Nissan, of course, use the same engine in the Juke, Note and Quashqai. Renault use it in the clit and Megane. Just seems strange that other marques are still having problems.

Adds weight to my theory then. The best solution is often the first simplest one. If they've locked that down early...

[Kevin Wood]

Adds weight to my theory then. The best solution is often the first simplest one. If they've locked that down early...

Probably a bit expensive adding an injector, so the bean counters send a lot of manufacturers down the route of bodging it by injecting fuel late, etc.

[aaronjb]

No one on the captur or juke forums has had any problems, some people claiming to have only done town driving for 10000 miles or more.

Similarly my Dad - has done 18,000m in ~2years in a current shape Note and ~40k in a previous shape Note in 3 years, neither has had a sniff of DPF problems and the current one has returned an average of >60mpg, mix of long(er) distance motorway and around town in both cases.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

There is a simple fix to the problem.

Use proper fuel rather than lorry/bus/taxi/ocean going liner fuel.

[STEMO]

There is a simple fix to the problem.

Use proper fuel rather than lorry/bus/taxi/ocean going liner fuel.

I would think a modern 2.8T derv drinker would leave your elderly signum for dust, and you would get approx twice the mpg. What's not to like?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

There is a simple fix to the problem.

Use proper fuel rather than lorry/bus/taxi/ocean going liner fuel.

I would think a modern 2.8T derv drinker would leave your elderly signum for dust, and you would get approx twice the mpg. What's not to like?

It's the power delivery I don't like. The best analogy I can use is that driving a derv is like sex without a climax. No exciting top end 'rush'.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

.....and the DPF problem.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

....and the fact that older derv cars are more expensive to fix than cars using real fuel.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

......and the 'clattery' derv sound.

[STEMO]

Ok........but apart from that? 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Ok........but apart from that? 

I may surprise you one day and buy an eco-derv that is less harmful to the environment than a gently fluttering butterfly.

[X30XE]

There is a simple fix to the problem.

Use proper fuel rather than lorry/bus/taxi/ocean going liner fuel.

I would think a modern 2.8T derv drinker would leave your elderly signum for dust, and you would get approx twice the mpg. What's not to like?

It's the power delivery I don't like. The best analogy I can use is that driving a derv is like sex without a climax. No exciting top end 'rush'.

"Driving a car Paul is very much like making love to a beautiful woman" 

Conversely your Mrs told me she likes it diesel-y as it's dirty, vibrates a lot and has plenty of stamina