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Re: VW TSI Blue Motion 1.4
« Reply #15 on: 22 September 2016, 13:33:00 »

None of the VW UK spec cars use AdBlue as far as I've seen, none of the Mk1 or Mk2 CC's nor do Passat B7's

Any & all of the 190hp TDIs use AdBlue across the entirety of VAG - VW, Audi, Skoda (and I assume Seat), for example in the current Passat, A6, Superb etc.

The 190's? So Euro6? Sounds like it's the higher BHP ones have to use it, to keep emissions down.

As I don't think the Euro 5's do from what I've seen
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Re: VW TSI Blue Motion 1.4
« Reply #16 on: 22 September 2016, 13:33:54 »

Other than being another tank to fill up, what's wrong with the AdBlu system?

It always struck me as better than the DPF which seems (inevitably) to get clogged with cr@p and then expires.

AdBlue is in addition to the DPF, not instead of.
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Re: VW TSI Blue Motion 1.4
« Reply #17 on: 22 September 2016, 15:04:13 »

The DPF is still there. SCR (AdBlue) is an addition to the emissions system
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Re: VW TSI Blue Motion 1.4
« Reply #18 on: 22 September 2016, 16:14:53 »

None of the VW UK spec cars use AdBlue as far as I've seen, none of the Mk1 or Mk2 CC's nor do Passat B7's

Any & all of the 190hp TDIs use AdBlue across the entirety of VAG - VW, Audi, Skoda (and I assume Seat), for example in the current Passat, A6, Superb etc.

The 190's? So Euro6? Sounds like it's the higher BHP ones have to use it, to keep emissions down.

Yeah - the 150s and 120s are free of it (in the current generation of engines, anyway); it actually drops some of the 190s into a lower tax band than the 150s.

And as others have said (to Jimmy), DPF removes particulates, AdBlue reduces NOx: http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/diesel/adblue
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Re: VW TSI Blue Motion 1.4
« Reply #19 on: 22 September 2016, 17:04:21 »

Other than being another tank to fill up, what's wrong with the AdBlu system?

It always struck me as better than the DPF which seems (inevitably) to get clogged with cr@p and then expires.
Exactly, although if you're unlucky it might have both ::)
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Re: VW TSI Blue Motion 1.4
« Reply #20 on: 22 September 2016, 17:09:52 »

If you lot insist on buying  smoky old cars that run on lorry fuel you only have yourselves to blame. ::) ::) :)
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Re: VW TSI Blue Motion 1.4
« Reply #21 on: 22 September 2016, 17:29:11 »

I cant believe adblue is charging for filtered cat wee

I always thought it was pig wee :)
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Re: VW TSI Blue Motion 1.4
« Reply #22 on: 22 September 2016, 17:32:39 »

I cant believe adblue is charging for filtered cat wee

I always thought it was pig wee :)
Piss is piss ;)
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Re: VW TSI Blue Motion 1.4
« Reply #23 on: 22 September 2016, 17:56:42 »

Other than being another tank to fill up, what's wrong with the AdBlu system?

It always struck me as better than the DPF which seems (inevitably) to get clogged with cr@p and then expires.
Exactly, although if you're unlucky it might have both ::)

As far as i know, if it has SCR it also has a DPF.
SCR/AdBlue is for NOx and the DPF is for particles
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Re: VW TSI Blue Motion 1.4
« Reply #24 on: 22 September 2016, 20:58:41 »

Other than being another tank to fill up, what's wrong with the AdBlu system?

It always struck me as better than the DPF which seems (inevitably) to get clogged with cr@p and then expires.
Exactly, although if you're unlucky it might have both ::)

As far as i know, if it has SCR it also has a DPF.
SCR/AdBlue is for NOx and the DPF is for particles
Quite... and if it's a particularly, no pun intended, emissions targeted engine then it will be trying as hard as possible to beat the tax brackets,  hence all the extra (expensive) gubbins ;)
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Re: VW TSI Blue Motion 1.4
« Reply #25 on: 23 September 2016, 17:45:04 »

Other than being another tank to fill up, what's wrong with the AdBlu system?

It always struck me as better than the DPF which seems (inevitably) to get clogged with cr@p and then expires.
Exactly, although if you're unlucky it might have both ::)



As far as i know, if it has SCR it also has a DPF.
SCR/AdBlue is for NOx and the DPF is for particles

Well that's just BS! Who thought that was a good idea!

Thankfully I'm not ever planning on having to worry about it.  :y
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Re: VW TSI Blue Motion 1.4
« Reply #26 on: 23 September 2016, 18:54:13 »

Petrol Is the best fuel so far  8)
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Re: VW TSI Blue Motion 1.4
« Reply #27 on: 24 September 2016, 10:53:19 »

Anyway, back to the TSi engine  ::)
Just had a polo with the 1.2 version in it.
With hire car driving rules in force, Went quite well for a tiny turbo engine and returned 43 mpg with little 16 stone me and 25 stone fat bastid work colleague in it  ;D.
Gutless when cold or below 2.5k revs.
Rattles its tits off too when cold  ;D



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Re: VW TSI Blue Motion 1.4
« Reply #28 on: 25 September 2016, 21:13:32 »

None of the VW UK spec cars use AdBlue as far as I've seen, none of the Mk1 or Mk2 CC's nor do Passat B7's

Any & all of the 190hp TDIs use AdBlue across the entirety of VAG - VW, Audi, Skoda (and I assume Seat), for example in the current Passat, A6, Superb etc.

The 190's? So Euro6? Sounds like it's the higher BHP ones have to use it, to keep emissions down.

As I don't think the Euro 5's do from what I've seen

I thought the lack of Adblue on EUR 5 VAG tractors was the reason for the 'creative' emissions software. ::) ::) ::)

With many cities now lifting up the emissions drawbridge to improve air quality, where will this leave the VAG fumers? In Germany they are now actively monitoring their major cities air quality and won't issue any lower than acceptable green permits during periods of high pollution. This summer no permits below EUR 4 were available. The fine for entering a restricted area with a car that doesn't comply and has a displayed permit is €80. From 2017 tractors will need instead of a green permit, a blue NOX one to enter NOX restricted sub-zones. Only about 500k of 13m tractors in Germany meet EUR 6 and can display the blue permit. If you take your car to Germany on holiday then you will need a green or blue permit, which you can order online, before you go. Iirc France is dragging their heels on implementing this, but the writing's on the wall. Will #Brexit mean that we will escape the full implementation of this EU wide system?

As the standards drawbridge goes up, older more polluting car increasingly cannot visit German cities and this may make older cars not a viable option rather than them wearing out. Certainly one to monitor and think about if you are a London commuter with a tractor and view the vehicle as a long term keeper!

http://www.environmental-badge.co.uk/en/environmental-badge.html
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Re: VW TSI Blue Motion 1.4
« Reply #29 on: 25 September 2016, 22:45:13 »

Food for thought indeed, but there appears to be a miss understanding with my commute, I don't go any way near central London.

Don't go any way near current emmisons zones  :y

Even the proposed ultra low one is still miles and miles away, so I'm not too worried  :)
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