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[Nick W]

And learnt nothing...

Thats not completely true,he's obviously learnt where 3rd gear is to get to such a velocity

It was accidental, he was fumbling for the Werthers

[STEMO]

And learnt nothing...

Tunnie is dead right about you.

[New POD]

I went on a course in January, 36 in a 30 on a road that USED to be 60 (last time I used it) at 6 am. No excuse. I was only using that road because the dual carriage way to the motorway was closed, and I'm confused myself with the diversion, and ended up miles from the motorway junction. GRR.

and then got done in April, on the way to Cardiff in Pencraig, where the 70 goes to 50 and back to 70, I got done at 64 accelerating towards the NSL sign.

I did learn something on the course. I leave more space in front of me.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

And learnt nothing...

Thats not completely true,he's obviously learnt where 3rd gear is to get to such a velocity

It was accidental, he was fumbling for the Werthers

It possible he was fumbling about for his dental plate after swearing too much at all the other motorists.

You don't need teeth for sucking a Werthers Original.

[Rods2]

Two more 'events' and he will be investing in some lycra and a pushbike.

[STEMO]

Two more 'events' and he will be investing in some lycra and a pushbike.

Three.

[henryd]

Two more 'events' and he will be investing in some lycra and a pushbike.

Sorry ,I was thinking of different events which may require rubber pants to be worn

[tigers_gonads]

Two more 'events' and he will be investing in some lycra and a pushbike.

Sorry ,I was thinking of different events which may require rubber pants to be worn

Oh not another soiled mattress     

[STEMO]

No NIP yet. 

[STEMO]

15 days, no NIP. 

[Gaffers]

I think you still have to wait a couple more just to be sure.  If it is dated and sent within the 14 days it doesn't matter if it arrives in 15 or 18 days.

Keep sweating old man 

P.S. I have a couple of old push bikes you can buy off me. Mates rates and all but a bigger discount if you join the Lycra brigade 

[LC0112G]

I think you still have to wait a couple more just to be sure.  If it is dated and sent within the 14 days it doesn't matter if it arrives in 15 or 18 days.

Wrong.

The NIP must be "served" within 14 days. "Served" has a specific legal meaning defined in "The Interpretations Act 1978" http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1978/30

Basically, if a NIP is posted, it must go by First Class post, and such that it should arrive at the recipient within 14 days. First class post is deemed to be delivered on the second working day after postage unless the recipient can prove that it was not. So posting on day 13 or 14 is a get out of jail free card. Even posting on days 11 or 12 might be a get out of jail card if Weekends or Bank Holidays get in the way.

[STEMO]

The last one I received had something about 'not using late delivery as an excuse' or similar, but that was delivered within a week. Anyhow, I'll have to stop being in such a hurry. I actually felt quite sad that my license might be endorsed.

[LC0112G]

The last one I received had something about 'not using late delivery as an excuse' or similar, but that was delivered within a week. Anyhow, I'll have to stop being in such a hurry. I actually felt quite sad that my license might be endorsed.

I expect it was quite carefully worded 

Late service does not absolve you of the requirement to respond to the S172 request for information. You can (and almost certainly will) get done for not supplying all the requested information within the prescribed time (normally 28 days) unless you have a very good excuse for not doing so. The penalty for that is 6 points + a big fine - much worse than for speeding which is typically 3 pts+£100.

However, if the NIP/S172 is served out of time, then you have a cast iron defence against the primary alleged offence of speeding.

So if a NIP/S172 lands, ALWAYS respond to it. If they then attempt to prosecute you using a late S172/NIP decline any FPN offer and (if it gets that far) opt for court. Stand your ground, present your evidence of a late NIP and they will either drop the case, or they will waste the courts time and you will be found not guilty. However, if you cave in they will be happy to accept your £100+3 to 6 points.

[STEMO]

There must have been cases where it was posted but not received, that would be interesting.