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Stargazer57N

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RAC telematics
« on: 09 October 2016, 09:24:59 »
I've been chosen by the RAC to take part in the pilot of their new telematics system called RAC advance, and will be the having a little black box fitted to the Omega in the next couple of weeks. The system records faults and then sends them to the RAC and my phone via an app. Should be handy to help find that niggling  fault of loss of power I get once in a blue moon when flooring it up hills.

http://www.techworld.com/news/mobile/rac-embraces-m2m-with-new-in-car-telematics-system-3434361/
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Re: RAC telematics
« Reply #1 on: 09 October 2016, 09:49:32 »
Hummmm  :-\

Only Vauxhall's own Tech2 will fully diag any issues, generic code reads, which can only assume this is based on will do little beyond basic fault codes.

Sure this setup is fine in brand new cars, with fully integrated manufacture setup.  This just sounds like a cheap code reader with a SIM card for sending codes out to RAC.
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Re: RAC telematics
« Reply #2 on: 09 October 2016, 10:02:08 »
Maybe that's why I've be chosen as a guinea pig for this trail as a tester on older vehicles. Oh time will tell and it not costing me anything anyway.
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Re: RAC telematics
« Reply #3 on: 09 October 2016, 10:24:30 »
Quote from: Stargazer57N on 09 October 2016, 10:02:08
Maybe that's why I've be chosen as a guinea pig for this trail as a tester on older vehicles. Oh time will tell and it not costing me anything anyway.

I'd have concerns personally, at someone not familiar with these 15 year old barges and doing a butcher on the loom. It could easily cause more problems that it solves.

Not sure how they would do it, but would require signifiant work into core leccy loom stuff.  :-\

What happens 24 months on, when their hacks/bodges/soldering has large potential to start failing?

Each to their own, but unless they were giving me some serious wonger, I'd tell them to naff off.

But that's just me  :y
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Re: RAC telematics
« Reply #4 on: 09 October 2016, 10:28:27 »
Also add into this that a fault code does not give you the full picture, often other failures/issues cause knock on other codes which have nothing to do with the problem.

Cam sensor for example can cause gearbox codes, no doubt the RAC would love to charge people for a new gearbox when it's not needed.  ::)

You need someone at the other end who knows what they are doing  :y
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Re: RAC telematics
« Reply #5 on: 09 October 2016, 10:55:50 »
Quote from: tunnie on 09 October 2016, 10:24:30
Quote from: Stargazer57N on 09 October 2016, 10:02:08
Maybe that's why I've be chosen as a guinea pig for this trail as a tester on older vehicles. Oh time will tell and it not costing me anything anyway.

I'd have concerns personally, at someone not familiar with these 15 year old barges and doing a butcher on the loom. It could easily cause more problems that it solves.

Not sure how they would do it, but would require signifiant work into core leccy loom stuff.  :-\

What happens 24 months on, when their hacks/bodges/soldering has large potential to start failing?

Each to their own, but unless they were giving me some serious wonger, I'd tell them to naff off.

But that's just me  :y

You didn't have a look at the link then  ::)

The RAC Advance early warning system is the size of a matchbox, and plugs into the car's diagnostic port,
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Re: RAC telematics
« Reply #6 on: 09 October 2016, 11:18:08 »
Might help  ::)

Still not sold on its value, fault codes only one side of it.
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Re: RAC telematics
« Reply #7 on: 09 October 2016, 11:30:46 »
Re: Tunnies remarks . . . . Be interesting to read the small print as regarding who puts the car right in the event of it causing problems  ::) ::)

Think I would also pass on this trial  "offer" simply on the age & technology of the omega

But only my opinion ;)
 
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Re: RAC telematics
« Reply #8 on: 09 October 2016, 19:06:28 »
Hmmm, hope its clever with power.

The diag port is always live, and I know if you leave a bluetooth reader plugged in, it will flatten your battery.
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Re: RAC telematics
« Reply #9 on: 09 October 2016, 20:47:57 »
If it comes with free, comprehensive breakdown cover then happy days :D
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Re: RAC telematics
« Reply #10 on: 12 October 2016, 11:24:09 »
Quote from: tunnie on 09 October 2016, 10:24:30
Quote from: Stargazer57N on 09 October 2016, 10:02:08
Maybe that's why I've be chosen as a guinea pig for this trail as a tester on older vehicles. Oh time will tell and it not costing me anything anyway.

I'd have concerns personally, at someone not familiar with these 15 year old barges and doing a butcher on the loom. It could easily cause more problems that it solves.

Not sure how they would do it, but would require signifiant work into core leccy loom stuff.  :-\



It plugs into the diagnostic socket no wire hacking involved.
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Re: RAC telematics
« Reply #11 on: 12 October 2016, 12:18:23 »
They do know that the Omega isn't OBD2 compliant?

 ::)
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Re: RAC telematics
« Reply #12 on: 12 October 2016, 12:45:10 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 12 October 2016, 12:18:23
They do know that the Omega isn't OBD2 compliant?

 ::)

The DBW one are......are they not?
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Re: RAC telematics
« Reply #13 on: 12 October 2016, 15:36:08 »
Well it being fitted on Tuesday so I'll let you know how it goes.
This is the app that'll run with it on my phone. https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/store/p/rac-telematics/9nblggh4v22w
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Re: RAC telematics
« Reply #14 on: 12 October 2016, 17:04:04 »
Quote from: steve6367 on 12 October 2016, 12:45:10
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 12 October 2016, 12:18:23
They do know that the Omega isn't OBD2 compliant?

 ::)

The DBW one are......are they not?
Not entirely iirc
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