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[STEMO]

How depressing that one of these is going to be president of the USA. We all know what Trump is, he has made it perfectly clear what kind of individual he is. But Clinton was slow, disjointed and generally appeared too old for the job.
David Cameron would have made mincemeat of the two of them.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I do not envy the choice the American people have to make.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

How is it possible that Trump got this far?

Is Bill Clinton's piece of Rumpo the best  the Democrats could come up with?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

For clarification......When I say Bill Clinton's piece of rumpo, I mean Hillary not Monica.

[tunnie]

Trump got this far, due to money. 

You look at those two choices, kinda shows how good we have it here. If you park that idiot Corbyn and his looney brigade to one side that is.

I still do wonder if Corbyn is a Tory agent, he has done a lovely job of getting liebor to implode      

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Trump got this far, due to money. 

You look at those two choices, kinda shows how good we have it here. If you park that idiot Corbyn and his looney brigade to one side that is.

I still do wonder if Corbyn is a Tory agent, he has done a lovely job of getting liebor to implode   

The Lib Dems are a 'busted flush' after nailing their colours to the Tory mast.

UKIP now have no purpose. Their job is done. Let the fighting commence. 

Labour are sadly lost. It is hard to believe Labour won three elections in a row  with Blair. It seems so long ago.

We are now living in (if there is such a thing) a one party democracy. I imagine that Brexit will split the Tories apart in short order.

[Varche]

I cannot remember a time in politics when things have been so dire.

America

A true dilema by definition. A Goldman Sachs puppet OR Trump muppet.  Remember one of those will have their say in where the warring world, and it is at war , goes.

Britain

Tories in by default. No manifesto and no clear idea of policies. Just look at the "every Bitish company will have to declare its foreign workers edict then a few days later that is cancelled. The Tories ARE the Right wing, Left wing and centre ground.
Labour. Dead ducks.
Lib Dems . Who?
UKIP . Too busy fighting to be credible.
The only opposition to government is the pound which takes a pasting every time May opens her mouth.

Spain

No overall majority and has had no government for months and months. The Labour party leader resigned to facilitate a co alition with Conservatives.

Eslewhere.
Lots of countries have voters finally waking up to the fact that globalisation isn't that good. Whatever it is here to stay. Plenty of right wing sentiment surfacing. Hungary hounding out the left wing Press. Turkey cleansing the country of opposition.   

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Trump and Clinton are both correct about each other. In their own different ways they are both sleazy crooks, and neither of them is remotely fit for high public office.
As for the U.K. Its early days for May and her government. There has been some impressive talk (the rivers of Rudd speech aside) but talk is cheap. Time will tell.
Labour - Corbyn will carry on with his loony left, Marxist agenda until they get slaughtered at the next elelection, and then the moderates will tear him apart.
Libdems - finished. Nuff said.
UKIP. They have a big problem. Farage is UKIP, and as soon as he takes one step back, they start fighting like ferrets in a sack. The north of England is there for them to take. Labour could be finished in the north if UKIP get their act together, but imo, if they don't sort them selves out within the next 6 months, then they should disband and merge back into the Tory party.
First thing they need to do is expel Carswell, Suzanne Evans and the ludicrous Neil Hamilton.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Trump and Clinton are both correct about each other. In their own different ways they are both sleazy crooks, and neither of them is remotely fit for high public office.
As for the U.K. Its early days for May and her government. There has been some impressive talk (the rivers of Rudd speech aside) but talk is cheap. Time will tell.
Labour - Corbyn will carry on with his loony left, Marxist agenda until they get slaughtered at the next elelection, and then the moderates will tear him apart.
Libdems - finished. Nuff said.
UKIP. They have a big problem. Farage is UKIP, and as soon as he takes one step back, they start fighting like ferrets in a sack. The north of England is there for them to take. Labour could be finished in the north if UKIP get their act together, but imo, if they don't sort them selves out within the next 6 months, then they should disband and merge back into the Tory party.
First thing they need to do is expel Carswell, Suzanne Evans and the ludicrous Neil Hamilton.

Neil Hamilton is a pork pie short of a picnic.

He is entertaining .......but not in a good way.

[annihilator]

Sadly either people have short memories or have no interest in learning lessons from the past as didn't hitler get into power by telling the masses what they wanted to hear.Same with ethnic cleansing who would think the atrocities in ww2 could be repeated but the Balkans, most of the middle east and africa disproved that
John.

[STEMO]

Trump and Clinton are both correct about each other. In their own different ways they are both sleazy crooks, and neither of them is remotely fit for high public office.
As for the U.K. Its early days for May and her government. There has been some impressive talk (the rivers of Rudd speech aside) but talk is cheap. Time will tell.
Labour - Corbyn will carry on with his loony left, Marxist agenda until they get slaughtered at the next elelection, and then the moderates will tear him apart.
Libdems - finished. Nuff said.
UKIP. They have a big problem. Farage is UKIP, and as soon as he takes one step back, they start fighting like ferrets in a sack. The north of England is there for them to take. Labour could be finished in the north if UKIP get their act together, but imo, if they don't sort them selves out within the next 6 months, then they should disband and merge back into the Tory party.
First thing they need to do is expel Carswell, Suzanne Evans and the ludicrous Neil Hamilton.

Talking of Farage, he's gone well down in my estimation. As soon as the 'Donald' tapes were released, he should of run a mile. Instead, he tries to defend him. Not good, Nige.

[Migalot]

I disagree with most of the posters on this subject.

Just saying... 

[STEMO]

I disagree with most of the posters on this subject.

Just saying... 

In what respect(s)?

[Migalot]

I disagree with most of the posters on this subject.

Just saying... 

In what respect(s)?

Yes, Trump was unwise to say those things. However, it WAS 10 years ago and the conversation was supposed to be private. I doubt there is anyone on here that has not said something in the past that they now regret. However, these were WORDS, not actions – there is huge difference.
Now, compare to Clinton whose past actions have been, in my opinion, not just immoral, but possibly much, much, worse.

The mainstream media, especially in this country (but also including CNN in the States) have deliberately presented Trump as the anti-Christ. The fact, as I see it, is that he wants to limit immigration, reduce taxes and stop the US involvement in foreign wars (my number 1 reason for hoping Trump wins). So, what's not to like?

Essentially, he is anti-establishment. The Clinton Foundation is part of the establishment. When I see all those Western arms in the hands of the so-called moderate rebels in Syria, I remember that it was a Democrat POTUS and a Secretary of State that pushed for Assad to be overthrown. Whatever you may say about Assad (and Gaddafi and Hussein, for that matter), they largely kept a lid on things. In the case of Assad, he oversaw a secular state which included many Christians. Now, there are hundreds of thousands dead and those that aren't, are living in hopeless conditions with the ever-present fear of imminent death. Meanwhile, Christians face persecution and execution as these states turn into jihadist hellholes.

Many Americans have seen how the US has behaved abroad and want nothing more to do with it. If Clinton is elected, the world will be even more dangerous than it is now, IMHO. In contrast, Trump is a pragmatic businessman who, I suspect, will command a great deal more respect in Beijing and Moscow than the current incumbent.

In any event, he said something in private for which he has apologised. Time to move on, as most American voters would seem to be doing.

These are my opinions and are based, not on C4, BBC or ITV News, but on many hours reading online articles and comments across the political spectrum.

PS Hope that answers your question, Steve.   

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Trump and Clinton are both correct about each other. In their own different ways they are both sleazy crooks, and neither of them is remotely fit for high public office.
As for the U.K. Its early days for May and her government. There has been some impressive talk (the rivers of Rudd speech aside) but talk is cheap. Time will tell.
Labour - Corbyn will carry on with his loony left, Marxist agenda until they get slaughtered at the next elelection, and then the moderates will tear him apart.
Libdems - finished. Nuff said.
UKIP. They have a big problem. Farage is UKIP, and as soon as he takes one step back, they start fighting like ferrets in a sack. The north of England is there for them to take. Labour could be finished in the north if UKIP get their act together, but imo, if they don't sort them selves out within the next 6 months, then they should disband and merge back into the Tory party.
First thing they need to do is expel Carswell, Suzanne Evans and the ludicrous Neil Hamilton.

Talking of Farage, he's gone well down in my estimation. As soon as the 'Donald' tapes were released, he should of run a mile. Instead, he tries to defend him. Not good, Nige.

A rare but serious error of judgement in my view. Either he hates Hilary beyond all reason, or Trump is paying him an enormous wedge in expenses to help & advise him.
He does seem to be embarking on a global mission to help undermine the political elite, but even so, Trump may be a step too far.
Of course if Trump wins, there could be muchos kudos and a lucrative lecture tour etc. in the U.S.for Farage.
Time will tell.
Whatever he does or doesn't do in the future, to me he will always be one of the 3 people in the U.K.who have swam against the tide and saved the country from ruin, within the last century.