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[Varche]

May (Remainer) playing a blinding game. She would have known all along that the decision will be reversed by powers higher than hers.

This is Corporatism at its best. It goes something like....... Business works better when it is global and has no barriers and pays no tax. When it is working in that manner it is good for the companies and ergo good for the little man (that is all of us).

I said the day after the vote that the establishment had cocked up in allowing an out vote.

[Doctor Gollum]

Be careful what you wish for Varche... Capitalism has been very good at screwing little people

[Mister Rog]

May (Remainer) playing a blinding game. She would have known all along that the decision will be reversed by powers higher than hers.

This is Corporatism at its best. It goes something like....... Business works better when it is global and has no barriers and pays no tax. When it is working in that manner it is good for the companies and ergo good for the little man (that is all of us).

I said the day after the vote that the establishment had cocked up in allowing an out vote.

 . . . . . and a game it is. Junkers et al have already made it clear that "out means out" etc and that they will play hardball on Brexit arrangements, however even if for some reason we do end up staying, the UK will then be seen as weak and easy pickings for any future negotiations. May is appearing to take a hardline, but possibly knowing that she may not win, however she can still appear to the EU as if she is a hardnut. Whatever, I thinks she's doing ok . . . . so far 

I still believe that Cameron was nuts to call the referendum. He badly misjudged public feeling, even under pressure from the Tory Eurosceptics.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

What i have seen is post the referendum result my facebook has been

from those who voted Exit : "Cool, we won, right, who's for a pint, ooh, got the kids to get off to school..."
from those who voted Remain: "NOOO!!! ARRGH!!! My face hurts! Jesus all these Jeremy Kyle Racist guests have voted to kill all immigrants!! Every who voted exit YOU have destoyed the country!! Racism didn't exist until today! "

and similar knee-jerking over-reactions...

now this has come about ...

from those who voted Exit: "Hey guys, anyone seen this vid with a funny dog?... Got my Poppy today... Ooh, that Len off Strictly is on the radio..."
from those who voted Remain: "Ahahahaaaaa!!!! Ner ner ne nerrr nerrrr!! The High Court are vetoing it, common sense prevails! You see, all you scummy great unwashed can shove it. Honestly, I passionately support Democratic process... but only when it votes in favour of what I want, obviously."

Brexiters don't care, they're happy to get on with their lives, the Remainers seem to be grasping for...anything, really.


This, I am hoping is not a typical cross-section of how voters/ the populous are behaving. One woman in particular has been getting my goat a bit, with pretty nasty comments about Leavers and the suggestions that anyone who voted Exit is racist, and anyone who voted Remain is some kind of enlightened Illuminati.

NO issue with those on here, or indeed anywhere who voted either way, I sincerely hope this is just a pattern in my circle of acquaintances..

Some perhaps.

I voted to remain but accept the result.

I don't want another referendum, and I don't want 600 MP's to change what 17 million of the Brexit persuasion voted for.

We are Great  Britain and I'm sure we can thrive both in and out of the EU. 

It'll be fine.....eventually.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Jeremy kyle is a  arrogant smug little turd.

I find it hard to believe that anyone actually likes him.

[Mister Rog]

Some perhaps.

I voted to remain but accept the result.

I don't want another referendum, and I don't want 600 MP's to change what 17 million of the Brexit persuasion voted for.

We are Great  Britain and I'm sure we can thrive both in and out of the EU. 

It'll be fine.....eventually.

         

Absoluteley. Let's just get on with it

[Sir Tigger KC]

I just wish the vote had been more definitive. 52% to 48% was always going to open a can of worms.

Agreed and that applies whichever way the vote went.  Could you imagine Farage conceding defeat and retiring to a pub somewhere in deepest darkest Kent if the result had been a narrow victory for remaining in the EU? 

However I do think if Cameron and Osborne had run a positive campaign that highlighted the benefits of Britain remaining in the EU rather than the negative 'Project Fear', the result would have been much more decisive for leaving the EU. 

[aaronjb]

DBG - "Anyone who voted leave should be stripped of their right to vote as they are retarded".. file under "words I've heard at work"..

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

DBG - "Anyone who voted leave should be stripped of their right to vote as they are retarded".. file under "words I've heard at work"..

Bit harsh.

[Doctor Gollum]

Jeremy kyle is a  arrogant smug little turd.

I find it hard to believe that anyone actually likes him.

Slightly off topic, but nevertheless a good point well made...

[Migalot]

Shamelessly copied from elsewhere. Someone's done a good bit of research:

All the judges are in one way or another connected to Mr T Blair.

The High court judge who originally ruled that the government must face a court hearing before triggering Article 50 was former Labour MP Ross Cranston. He was elected in 1997 and then promptly appointed as Solicitor General for England and Wales by Blair. He terminated his parliamentary career in 2005 and was appointed as a High Court Judge two years later by Blair.
...
So how about the judges behind today’s ruling? Philip Sales is another one of Blair’s. He practiced at the same law chambers that Blair co-founded...

The second judge, Terence Etherton, was appointed a High Court judge in 2001 while Blair was in office and Cranston was Solicitor General. He was then promoted to Lord Justice of Appeal by Gordon Brown. The third judge, Lord Chief Justice, Lord Thomas, meanwhile is a founding members of the European Law Institute which makes recommendations and provides guidance with the goal of “enhancing European legal integration”.

Surprised? Anyone?   

[Doctor Gollum]

Well that's that bollaxed then...the very mechanism that regulates the whole debacle is insipidly pro European

So there won't be any disintegration framework...

A bit like legalising gay marriage but not gay divorce

[Migalot]

I used to laugh at conspiracy theories.

Now I read them with interest...and apprehension. 

[STEMO]

If there is the slightest chance that we don't actually leave the EU, brought about by some mechanism of parliament, then we have become a fully fledged banana republic. In small African countries, if a vote doesn't go the way of the people already in power, then the vote is declared to be null and void and people are shot and beaten on the streets. That won't happen here, I'm sure, but the whole democratic process will be finished.
If I don't like the result of the next General election, I'm going to find a sympathetic judge to declare it illegal.

[LC0112G]

I think you're all missing the point. The judges in the High/Supreme court aren't in the least bit influenced by public (or political) opinion and nor should they be. Their job is to rule on matters of law.

They have been asked the question "In Law, is it Parliament or The Government that has the right to invoke Art50?" They have decided that under the "1972 European Communities Act" that Parliament has to take the decision. You can read the act and decide for yourself if this interpretation is correct here : http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1972/68/contents

Parliament writes the laws, so if the laws don't do what the Government want than it ain't the Judges fault - the politicians should have got the laws right in place first.

IMV the Judges have got this one right - Parliament should have the last say on virtually everything. However, MP's can be in no doubt that a majority voted for Brexit, and if they vote against the will of their constituents then they will probably pay the price at the next general election.