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Central Heating playing up!!! Brrr!!!
« on: 08 November 2016, 14:17:34 »

Potterton Profile conventional boiler, with hot water tank next to it and feed and expansion tank in the loft.

The boiler seems to run fine for a while and all the radiators get hot, but then it will give a big gurgle and shuts down.  :-\  This also happens when heating water, but the gurgle is worse and the boiler shuts down more often!  Sounds like there is a lot of air in the pipes around the boiler and hot water tank.  :-\

I've bled all the rads and they're fine, I've opened the bleed valve above the 3 way valve and that was fine, and I've checked the feed and expansion tank and that's OK, the pump appears to be running OK, and apart from draining down the system and refilling it I'm out of ideas!  :-\

Might there be an airlock somewhere in the pipes around the boiler and hot water tank? 

Any advice appreciated please!  I'm bleddy freezing!!  :o  :D

TIA!  :y
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Re: Central Heating playing up!!! Brrr!!!
« Reply #1 on: 08 November 2016, 14:56:10 »

When you say it shuts down, does it trip the thermal trip (reset underneath?)
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« Reply #2 on: 08 November 2016, 14:58:05 »

I'm trying to think what I did when ours did this :-\


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« Reply #3 on: 08 November 2016, 14:58:33 »

Oh yeah.......called a plumber  ;D
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« Reply #4 on: 08 November 2016, 14:58:53 »

Oh yeah.......called a plumber  ;D

But he wants it fixing..........
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Re: Central Heating playing up!!! Brrr!!!
« Reply #5 on: 08 November 2016, 14:59:28 »

When you say it shuts down, does it trip the thermal trip (reset underneath?)

No I don't think so, as it will start up again after a while without intervention. 

As if it's got up to temp and shuts down until the thermostat tells it to start up again.  :-\
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« Reply #6 on: 08 November 2016, 15:00:12 »

Oh yeah.......called a plumber  ;D

But he wants to fix it..........

Fixed!  ;D
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« Reply #7 on: 08 November 2016, 15:01:04 »

Oh yeah.......called a plumber  ;D

But he wants it fixing..........
I suppose he could take it to bits.......then call a plumber...or boiler fixerer.
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« Reply #8 on: 08 November 2016, 15:07:27 »

Ok so that suggests that its the standard boiler stat shutting it off because the return temperature is high, that points to either the pump not circulating (check it for air via the large screw cap) or its seized (give it a belt to see if it runs).

An easy way to check is to demand heat for either the rads or water and check the temperature of the pipe to the pump.

Also, do you know if its an S (multiple 2 way valves) plan or Y/W plan system (mid position valve)?
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« Reply #9 on: 08 November 2016, 15:19:06 »

Oh dear.....he's gone.........probably to get his tools.........oh dear......
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« Reply #10 on: 08 November 2016, 15:19:31 »

Just re-read your post.....is the feed and vent clear from the header tank?
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Re: Central Heating playing up!!! Brrr!!!
« Reply #11 on: 08 November 2016, 15:20:35 »

Not a Fry's house, is it?

Plumber who did ours seemingly had difficulty with the concept of water flowing downhill and air collecting at the top (right where he'd located the pump). ;D
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« Reply #12 on: 08 November 2016, 15:27:15 »

I think it's a Y/W plan as there's only one valve (3 way). The F/E tank seemed OK, it had water in it, the vent is clear of the water level and the ball valve operates OK.

I think the pump is OK as the rads get hot....  I'll check again though.  :y
 
Not a Fry's house Kevin!  :y

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« Reply #13 on: 08 November 2016, 15:29:15 »

I think it's a Y/W plan as there's only one valve (3 way). The F/E tank seemed OK, it had water in it, the vent is clear of the water level and the ball valve operates OK.

I think the pump is OK as the rads get hot....  I'll check again though.  :y
 
Not a Fry's house Kevin!  :y

Piss off STEMO, yer not helping!  :P  ;D
That's nice. I won't bother then.  ;D
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Re: Central Heating playing up!!! Brrr!!!
« Reply #14 on: 08 November 2016, 15:35:52 »

I think it's a Y/W plan as there's only one valve (3 way). The F/E tank seemed OK, it had water in it, the vent is clear of the water level and the ball valve operates OK.

I think the pump is OK as the rads get hot....  I'll check again though.  :y
 
Not a Fry's house Kevin!  :y

Piss off STEMO, yer not helping!  :P  ;D

It's possible the feed or vent pipes have been blocked if there's a bit of crusty stuff in the system.
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