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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #30 on: 14 March 2017, 18:35:35 »

Dropped into Helfrauds on my way past. As suspected the Laser spiral ones are a smidgeon too small.

Got the spare wheel nut off with the 10" stilsons but of course that one wasn't really tight anyway.

LH threaded spiral bolt with a shoulder/nut on it would be the best means of getting these particular bstards out me thinks. Good excuse to buy a lathe  :D no no behave  ;D
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #31 on: 14 March 2017, 19:00:35 »

Depending on how far out it is protruding you could try carefully make it hex shape with a small hand grinder. Very carefully ! You dont want to mark the wheel. Then  hammer a tight surface drive socket onto it. Another way would be to drill it out but you would need good drills and only drill as far as you need to. Another way would be to find a large nut that nearly fits around it and weld it on from the centre. This would require a sheid making to protect wheel and brakes etc from any weld spatter and keep stopping and cooling with water. Either way as mr stemo says give it some realy hard hammer blows before anything to shock unload the threads slightly.
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #32 on: 14 March 2017, 19:23:51 »

Dropped into Helfrauds on my way past. As suspected the Laser spiral ones are a smidgeon too small.

Got the spare wheel nut off with the 10" stilsons but of course that one wasn't really tight anyway.

LH threaded spiral bolt with a shoulder/nut on it would be the best means of getting these particular bstards out me thinks. Good excuse to buy a lathe  :D no no behave  ;D


As it's on a Land Rover, have you considered drilling slightly larger than the stud diameter past the depth of the nut? Then a couple of whacks from a decent chisel should remove the nut if it doesn't just fall off. A new LR stud is likely to be considerably cheaper than any of the specialist removal tools that require a large application of luck for success.
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« Reply #33 on: 14 March 2017, 19:48:07 »

Dropped into Helfrauds on my way past. As suspected the Laser spiral ones are a smidgeon too small.

Got the spare wheel nut off with the 10" stilsons but of course that one wasn't really tight anyway.

LH threaded spiral bolt with a shoulder/nut on it would be the best means of getting these particular bstards out me thinks. Good excuse to buy a lathe  :D no no behave  ;D


As it's on a Land Rover, have you considered drilling slightly larger than the stud diameter past the depth of the nut? Then a couple of whacks from a decent chisel should remove the nut if it doesn't just fall off. A new LR stud is likely to be considerably cheaper than any of the specialist removal tools that require a large application of luck for success.
It's a five stud wheel. Four will do if you can only get the head off.  ;D
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #34 on: 14 March 2017, 20:00:56 »

Just tell him how you used to do it in 10 seconds flat, in Liverpool.  ;D
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« Reply #35 on: 14 March 2017, 20:08:01 »

Just tell him how you used to do it in 10 seconds flat, in Liverpool.  ;D
If it wouldn't come off, we'd have just set fire to it for spite.  :)
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« Reply #36 on: 14 March 2017, 20:09:34 »

Doesn't surprise me.  ;D
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #37 on: 14 March 2017, 21:12:40 »

What about one of these?

http://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/tools/hand-tools/laser-survivor-socket?cm_mmc=Google+PLA-_-Tools-_-Hand+Tools-_-221967&_$ja=tsid:60494%7Ccgn:GoogleShopping%7Ckw:221967&istCompanyId=b8708c57-7a02-4cf6-b2c0-dc36b54a327e&istItemId=amirrwiqr&istBid=tzxp&_$ja=tsid:35522|cid:344535484|agid:25437357364|tid:pla-236921564164|crid:89797547524|nw:g|rnd:6319434387719059235|dvc:t|adp:1o1&gclid=CjwKEAjwqZ7GBRC1srKSv9TV_iwSJADKTjaDfU9Io5KB61h5bZ8Ebvm-tV-KI9sza2wIOiDTCJUXbxoCEWHw_wcB
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #38 on: 14 March 2017, 21:53:41 »

I love an optimist!


I'm particularly partial to the pathetic whimpering they make when their pretty dreams are shredded by an uncaring universe. It refreshes my soul
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« Reply #39 on: 14 March 2017, 22:04:48 »

What about one of these?

http://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/tools/hand-tools/laser-survivor-socket?cm_mmc=Google+PLA-_-Tools-_-Hand+Tools-_-221967&_$ja=tsid:60494%7Ccgn:GoogleShopping%7Ckw:221967&istCompanyId=b8708c57-7a02-4cf6-b2c0-dc36b54a327e&istItemId=amirrwiqr&istBid=tzxp&_$ja=tsid:35522|cid:344535484|agid:25437357364|tid:pla-236921564164|crid:89797547524|nw:g|rnd:6319434387719059235|dvc:t|adp:1o1&gclid=CjwKEAjwqZ7GBRC1srKSv9TV_iwSJADKTjaDfU9Io5KB61h5bZ8Ebvm-tV-KI9sza2wIOiDTCJUXbxoCEWHw_wcB
That might work better if the removable bits were just spring loaded instead.

But I doubt it.  ;D

On the same principle, just take a huge socket, fill it with liquid metal (chemical, not literal), plonk it over the nut and wait for it to go off. Abracadabra.
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #40 on: 14 March 2017, 23:21:32 »

What about one of these?

http://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/tools/hand-tools/laser-survivor-socket?cm_mmc=Google+PLA-_-Tools-_-Hand+Tools-_-221967&_$ja=tsid:60494%7Ccgn:GoogleShopping%7Ckw:221967&istCompanyId=b8708c57-7a02-4cf6-b2c0-dc36b54a327e&istItemId=amirrwiqr&istBid=tzxp&_$ja=tsid:35522|cid:344535484|agid:25437357364|tid:pla-236921564164|crid:89797547524|nw:g|rnd:6319434387719059235|dvc:t|adp:1o1&gclid=CjwKEAjwqZ7GBRC1srKSv9TV_iwSJADKTjaDfU9Io5KB61h5bZ8Ebvm-tV-KI9sza2wIOiDTCJUXbxoCEWHw_wcB
That might work better if the removable bits were just spring loaded instead.

But I doubt it.  ;D

On the same principle, just take a huge socket, fill it with liquid metal (chemical, not literal), plonk it over the nut and wait for it to go off. Abracadabra.

I was going to suggest using an air chisel, but having used "quick steel" on a side board hinge repair.

The above suggestions well worth a try.
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #41 on: 15 March 2017, 08:56:07 »

What about one of these?

http://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/tools/hand-tools/laser-survivor-socket?cm_mmc=Google+PLA-_-Tools-_-Hand+Tools-_-221967&_$ja=tsid:60494%7Ccgn:GoogleShopping%7Ckw:221967&istCompanyId=b8708c57-7a02-4cf6-b2c0-dc36b54a327e&istItemId=amirrwiqr&istBid=tzxp&_$ja=tsid:35522|cid:344535484|agid:25437357364|tid:pla-236921564164|crid:89797547524|nw:g|rnd:6319434387719059235|dvc:t|adp:1o1&gclid=CjwKEAjwqZ7GBRC1srKSv9TV_iwSJADKTjaDfU9Io5KB61h5bZ8Ebvm-tV-KI9sza2wIOiDTCJUXbxoCEWHw_wcB

Tried that for size while i was in there. Close but no cigar. 
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #42 on: 15 March 2017, 09:04:28 »

What about one of these?

http://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/tools/hand-tools/laser-survivor-socket?cm_mmc=Google+PLA-_-Tools-_-Hand+Tools-_-221967&_$ja=tsid:60494%7Ccgn:GoogleShopping%7Ckw:221967&istCompanyId=b8708c57-7a02-4cf6-b2c0-dc36b54a327e&istItemId=amirrwiqr&istBid=tzxp&_$ja=tsid:35522|cid:344535484|agid:25437357364|tid:pla-236921564164|crid:89797547524|nw:g|rnd:6319434387719059235|dvc:t|adp:1o1&gclid=CjwKEAjwqZ7GBRC1srKSv9TV_iwSJADKTjaDfU9Io5KB61h5bZ8Ebvm-tV-KI9sza2wIOiDTCJUXbxoCEWHw_wcB
That might work better if the removable bits were just spring loaded instead.

But I doubt it.  ;D

On the same principle, just take a huge socket, fill it with liquid metal (chemical, not literal), plonk it over the nut and wait for it to go off. Abracadabra.

Already thought of that but i don't have 4 sockets to spare...  Wonder if wd40 works as mould release for chem metal  :P
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« Reply #43 on: 15 March 2017, 09:17:55 »

Have you found out yet?
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« Reply #44 on: 15 March 2017, 09:19:30 »

Might get time to attack it later hopefully.
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