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powerslinky

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"Crystal Ball" vehicle/employee tracker ?
« on: 27 April 2017, 17:07:10 »

Any oofers heard of this system ? :-\

Seems the employer issues you with a mobile phone with this "crystal ball" app installed & it tracks both the vehicle  & the employee , just tracking the employee when  the employee leaves the vehicle.

Apparently works 24/7  & accurate to 1 Metre.

Big Brother has arrived if what I've been told is correct.

So big question is :   are employers allowed to track the employees themselves ? :-\

Does the employee have to agree to be tracked personally?

How does the employee know he / she is not being spied on out of working hours ?

Interesting one this   ::) ::)
« Last Edit: 27 April 2017, 17:10:58 by Essex Big Al »
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Re: "Crystal Ball" vehicle/employee tracker ?
« Reply #1 on: 27 April 2017, 17:12:54 »

Should imagine you'd switch your work phone off outside of working hours. I certainly would.
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« Reply #2 on: 27 April 2017, 17:23:17 »

Should imagine you'd switch your work phone off outside of working hours. I certainly would.

Don't know too much as yet Steve , and this seems unlikely, but been told switching phone off does NOT stop it tracking you  ::)

Just trying to have "google" on it now   ;) ;)
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Re: "Crystal Ball" vehicle/employee tracker ?
« Reply #3 on: 27 April 2017, 17:36:03 »

Not news...
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Re: "Crystal Ball" vehicle/employee tracker ?
« Reply #4 on: 27 April 2017, 17:42:28 »

Not news...

What are you suggesting with that comment Dr. ?

Ah yes . . .I know I'll look in the crystal ball  ;) ;)
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Re: "Crystal Ball" vehicle/employee tracker ?
« Reply #5 on: 27 April 2017, 18:02:39 »

Yes - MDM software such as Soti....

Can do one hell of a lot more with it than that too ;)

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Re: "Crystal Ball" vehicle/employee tracker ?
« Reply #6 on: 27 April 2017, 18:04:50 »

Been possible ever since the mobile phone was invented, coming into its own now with linked accounts/emails/online shopping/map searches/TV viewing etc.

Wasn't mentioned in the Daily Fail per chance?
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Re: "Crystal Ball" vehicle/employee tracker ?
« Reply #7 on: 27 April 2017, 18:10:29 »

In my last job, they started tracking the trucks about 14 years ago to lots of complaints from my colleagues. Operationally it was well worthwhile; the controllers soon stopped sending us across each other's paths. The complainers were mostly those doing private jobs.
When we went paperless(which is always a misnomer), the software tracked both the phone and the vehicle. But it didn't work with the phone turned off. Or in the radio deadspot where I live 8) .


My opinion was that they were paying me to use their equipment, so I couldn't care less whether they track me or not at work. I never had my work phone on me, or even switched on outside of work hours.
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« Reply #8 on: 27 April 2017, 18:13:50 »

Been possible ever since the mobile phone was invented, coming into its own now with linked accounts/emails/online shopping/map searches/TV viewing etc.

Wasn't mentioned in the Daily Fail per chance?

No  . . .  but lets just say I  may need to know what it's all about . . .& very soon  >:( >:
 
Also  . . .my vehicle is already tracked and has been for ages , also have a personal alarm for lone working  ::)
« Last Edit: 27 April 2017, 18:16:47 by Essex Big Al »
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« Reply #9 on: 27 April 2017, 19:54:48 »

Should imagine you'd switch your work phone off outside of working hours. I certainly would.

Don't know too much as yet Steve , and this seems unlikely, but been told switching phone off does NOT stop it tracking you  ::)

Just trying to have "google" on it now   ;) ;)
Well. I've had a google, Al, and phone off means no tracking.
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Re: "Crystal Ball" vehicle/employee tracker ?
« Reply #10 on: 27 April 2017, 20:14:44 »

We use a similar system. Choice is to comply, or find alternative options to pay the mortgage
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Re: "Crystal Ball" vehicle/employee tracker ?
« Reply #11 on: 27 April 2017, 21:46:47 »

At work, I'm fully tracked, with real time camera, and full vehicle telemetry, starts from the moments the key is turned until 1hour after ignition off. 

It's not a problem, if your playing by the rules, its also for my protection too,. 
There are company's who will and do harass you all the time, young mangers trying to prove themselves are the worst, .
But were lucky, as long as the jobs done were left alone.
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Re: "Crystal Ball" vehicle/employee tracker ?
« Reply #12 on: 27 April 2017, 22:01:17 »

Should imagine you'd switch your work phone off outside of working hours. I certainly would.

Don't know too much as yet Steve , and this seems unlikely, but been told switching phone off does NOT stop it tracking you  ::)

Just trying to have "google" on it now   ;) ;)
Well. I've had a google, Al, and phone off means no tracking.

Thats not so bad then  ;)
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« Reply #13 on: 27 April 2017, 22:03:32 »

At work, I'm fully tracked, with real time camera, and full vehicle telemetry, starts from the moments the key is turned until 1hour after ignition off. 

It's not a problem, if your playing by the rules, its also for my protection too,. 
There are company's who will and do harass you all the time, young mangers trying to prove themselves are the worst, .
But were lucky, as long as the jobs done were left alone.

Exactly . . . gonna be problems there . . . but we'll see   ::) ::)
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Re: "Crystal Ball" vehicle/employee tracker ?
« Reply #14 on: 27 April 2017, 23:22:28 »

As long as you are told about it then it's legal.

I could read call logs and text messages and see what apps were installed on the work phones I issued, in addition to tracking them and the vehicles separately  ;)

In fact, it's how I managed to provide proof to the police that an employee had robbed me of a sizeable sum >:(
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