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Re: 'A' Roads / Motorways
« Reply #15 on: 13 August 2008, 21:09:38 »

its definately a better road than some of our motorways at home!
there are major road works going on around gretna and carlisle, so maybe it will become a motorway when these are completed!
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« Reply #16 on: 13 August 2008, 21:11:22 »

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its definately a better road than some of our motorways at home!
there are major road works going on around gretna and carlisle, so maybe it will become a motorway when these are completed!

OMG Ljay!; you haven`t eloped have you? ;D
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« Reply #17 on: 13 August 2008, 21:11:54 »

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Are learners allowed on a Axx(M)?
No - its a motorway


So WHY isnt it the M74?

surely it shoul be the M74 if a motorway, or the A74 if not.

What is the difference?

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Re: 'A' Roads / Motorways
« Reply #18 on: 13 August 2008, 21:13:35 »

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Are learners allowed on a Axx(M)?
No - its a motorway


So WHY isnt it the M74?

surely it shoul be the M74 if a motorway, or the A74 if not.

What is the difference?
No, its the A74 upgraded to motorway spec (and laws).  M74, if ever it were built) would be a new road...   ...same as A1 - a few sections of that have been upgraded to A1M
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« Reply #19 on: 13 August 2008, 21:16:19 »

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its definately a better road than some of our motorways at home!
there are major road works going on around gretna and carlisle, so maybe it will become a motorway when these are completed!

OMG Ljay!; you haven`t eloped have you? ;D

Oh yes!! Found myself a nice hunky Scotsman and got hitched over the anvil!!! ;D
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« Reply #20 on: 13 August 2008, 21:18:06 »

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Are learners allowed on a Axx(M)?
No - its a motorway


So WHY isnt it the M74?

surely it shoul be the M74 if a motorway, or the A74 if not.

What is the difference?
No, its the A74 upgraded to motorway spec (and laws).  M74, if ever it were built) would be a new road...   ...same as A1 - a few sections of that have been upgraded to A1M

So, why isn't it renamed the M74 to avoid confusion, I know its not unique in this status.  :-/

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Re: 'A' Roads / Motorways
« Reply #21 on: 13 August 2008, 21:18:29 »

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« Reply #22 on: 13 August 2008, 21:20:28 »

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Are learners allowed on a Axx(M)?
No - its a motorway


So WHY isnt it the M74?

surely it shoul be the M74 if a motorway, or the A74 if not.

What is the difference?
No, its the A74 upgraded to motorway spec (and laws).  M74, if ever it were built) would be a new road...   ...same as A1 - a few sections of that have been upgraded to A1M

So, why isn't it renamed the M74 to avoid confusion, I know its not unique in this status.  :-/
Whats confusing - its part of the A74 but has motorway regulations, so A74M
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Re: 'A' Roads / Motorways
« Reply #23 on: 13 August 2008, 21:20:38 »

Got it

When the Special Roads Act was passed (Motorways are legally "Special Roads"), it was acknowledged that the trunk road numbering system devised in the 1920s would not work easily with the new motorway network. So a new system was developed, which, in theory is:

A motorway built as a new road was to be given a number in the M-series, such as the M4 or M1

An existing trunk road that was upgraded or re-built was to be given a (M) suffix after the trunk road number, such as A74(M) or A1(M)
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« Reply #24 on: 13 August 2008, 21:21:12 »

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Some Motorway Facts

http://www.ukmotorwayarchive.org/

cheers Skruntie! that should shut him up for a bit!
My question, his soap box!! ::)
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« Reply #25 on: 13 August 2008, 21:21:39 »

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Got it

When the Special Roads Act was passed (Motorways are legally "Special Roads"), it was acknowledged that the trunk road numbering system devised in the 1920s would not work easily with the new motorway network. So a new system was developed, which, in theory is:

A motorway built as a new road was to be given a number in the M-series, such as the M4 or M1

An existing trunk road that was upgraded or re-built was to be given a (M) suffix after the trunk road number, such as A74(M) or A1(M)
Exactly
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Re: 'A' Roads / Motorways
« Reply #26 on: 13 August 2008, 21:25:32 »

I had read it before but just could not remember it all.

BUT the theory has not been used consistently.

The A329(M) is a new build, parallel to the A329 [so should be numbered M329]

The M896 was originally an upgrade of the A896 [so should be numbered A896(M)]

Then you have the A66(M) which is an extension to the A66, built to motorway standard to avoid constructing a more elaborate interchange with the A1(M) at junction 57!

Even parts of the A1(M) are a new build, with the old A1 renumbered A167.
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Re: 'A' Roads / Motorways
« Reply #27 on: 13 August 2008, 21:25:42 »

Ahhh a definitive answer!

Still think it would be clearer to make it definately one or the other though.


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« Reply #28 on: 13 August 2008, 21:26:50 »

so.......it is a motorway then.  :)
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« Reply #29 on: 13 August 2008, 21:41:20 »

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so.......it is a motorway then.  :)

yes....or no!  :-/
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