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[terry paget]

You shouldn't have to modify a part that you removed in order to refit it

Agreed. I can only conclude that I damaged it on first reassembly.

[terry paget]

did you remove the flywheel locking tool 

have you compared the " dubre firkin"  and damper to the ones on the spares car ?

Job is done, cam belt and pulleys changed, rattle cured by a little filing.
 So I got a Dayco kit for £53.06. + the cost of the wrongly ordered belt kit

all good then 

I did not use the flywheel locking tool, could not see where to insert it from Haynes picture.
I did not bother to move the spare car to the garage and dismantle it.

[henryd]

No Dave
Stock 1.4 with timing belt kit and water pump,bought with reg number

is it an astra with a corsa badge on the back 
I really don't know then 

probably more important things to worry about in the world   

like Terry and his astra collection 

HW02JWG   X14XE  ,belt kit and pump

[terry paget]

Imagine my dismay. Having bought and sorted this car in 8 days, handed it over to Jonny on the 9th, and waved him goodbye with his wife and father-in-law last Sunday, on the Monday he rang me from Stratford-on-Avon that the car was smoking, he tried putting in more water but it came straight out of the bottom. Should he call the AA?

Yes, I said. I wondered what I had done wrong, which bolt left untightened, what ghastly error had I made.

He rang again 4 hours later. The AA man pointed out a leak in the short hose from the water pump to a T piece. He had tried taping it, but in vain. AA man assured Jonny it was not my fault, just one of things that happens occasionally.


The AA recovered car and couple to me today.

Now I wonder how they assemble that hose union without hose clips, and why. Those steel bands are continuous.

[Nick W]

Whatever.
Bung a Jubilee clamp on it and call it done.

[dave the builder]

HW02JWG   X14XE  ,belt kit and pump

computer says "no "

The AA man pointed out a leak in the short hose from the water pump to a T piece. He had tried taping it, but in vain. AA man assured Jonny it was not my fault, just one of things that happens occasionally.

The AA recovered car and couple to me today.

Now I wonder how they assemble that hose union without hose clips, and why. Those steel bands are continuous.

I can't really see what pipe it is ,but i thought the one out of the back of the water pump was a convoluted semi rigid stainless pipe section (like tracpipe without the yellow outer) that runs over to the EGR cooler / stat housing 

hope it has not done any lasting damage 

Too late now, BUT I'd advise you (or your family ) never try pouring water in an engine until it has had chance to cool down .
rapid cooling could crack or warp castings (head,block etc)

[terry paget]

This is the hose, barely a hose at all, 59mm long and 41mm id. It connects the front of the water pump to a plastic T piece, the RH larger hose going to the radiator and the narrower hose going left to the bottom of the header tank. You can see it is split. All three hoses were attached by steel bands. The connection of the hose to water pump is by sprung hose clip.

[Doctor Gollum]

Anything in the vicinity which might have sliced it?

The t piece is pre-assembled with traditional spring clips attaching the pipes to the rest of the plumbing 

[dave the builder]

I see now 
is the part in stock (spares car )
may need another oil change now you've had a fry up 
I've got to do the belts on the new zafra and another astra
same z16xep engines
I'll check the hoses,though it is hard to tell ,until they leak or split 

[terry paget]

Anything in the vicinity which might have sliced it?

The t piece is pre-assembled with traditional spring clips attaching the pipes to the rest of the plumbing 

Nothing I can think of.  As you say, the spare part is the whole assembly of T piece and 3 hoses. However the AA man looked only at the local leak, not the whole assembly.

[terry paget]

I see now 
is the part in stock (spares car )
may need another oil change now you've had a fry up 
I've got to do the belts on the new zafra and another astra
same z16xep engines
I'll check the hoses,though it is hard to tell ,until they leak or split 

Yes. In my haste and inexperience, I only used the short split section, not the 3 hose assembly, but no matter, I am learning all the time.

That donor car is proving very useful, and will do so more now that I have another 4 wheel stud Astra.

Useful not only to me, but to a neighbour. He popped his head over the fence Sunday, and enquired whether I knew where he could get a Meriva gearbox. I replied there might be one in my donor car. Apparently his son's Meriva gearbox is very noisy.
He popped round, found the g/b number, checked with his son, right part, asked me what I wanted for it. £50  I said.

Next day he turned up with a huge trolley jack, a bag of tools, and his son, and took away the gearbox in a wheelbarrow.

[terry paget]

did you remove the flywheel locking tool 

have you compared the " dubre firkin"  and damper to the ones on the spares car ?

Job is done, cam belt and pulleys changed, rattle cured by a little filing.
 So I got a Dayco kit for £53.06. + the cost of the wrongly ordered belt kit

all good then 

Vendor refunded cost, admitted his error

[dave the builder]

did you remove the flywheel locking tool 

have you compared the " dubre firkin"  and damper to the ones on the spares car ?

Job is done, cam belt and pulleys changed, rattle cured by a little filing.
 So I got a Dayco kit for £53.06. + the cost of the wrongly ordered belt kit

all good then 

Vendor refunded cost, admitted his error

is it all ok now after the coolant leak 

[terry paget]

did you remove the flywheel locking tool 

have you compared the " dubre firkin"  and damper to the ones on the spares car ?

Job is done, cam belt and pulleys changed, rattle cured by a little filing.
 So I got a Dayco kit for £53.06. + the cost of the wrongly ordered belt kit

all good then 

Vendor refunded cost, admitted his error

is it all ok now after the coolant leak 

Just about,
 now, thanks. Offside front tyre worn on both sides but good tread in the centre, and the brake bleed nipple offside front seized and hexagon rounded, so I need some tyres off the donor car, and the front right brake caliper; then it will be as good as new.

[dave the builder]

Probably a good idea to check that front suspension and steering Terry while you have that car in , tyres wear un-even for a reason and steering play has been flagged on the MOT IIRC 
LIDL had a cheap socket set last week £8 ,2 racks of sockets plus 3 extensions
the reason I mention is because the sockets are 6 sided  so don't round nuts off as easy , my set already saved me the time to warrant the massive investment