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Re: Corona virus Europe
« Reply #45 on: 26 February 2020, 13:13:46 »

I think I may be coming down with a dose of  Man Flu.

Forget the 2% fatality rate of the 'pissy' Corona virus, it is well known the fatality rate of man flu is close to 100%... :-\
Self isolate for a year and don't take you laptop with you.....please!  :P

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Re: Corona virus Europe
« Reply #46 on: 26 February 2020, 18:09:58 »

Newsflash...

Italy, north of Pisa, isn't great in the winter, so now is a sensible time to not be there in the first place.

Go in June/July. It will be warmer with no flu :y
I am.

But will be unaffected because self isolation, and even the wimpy force isolation measures tried don't work, so it'll be everywhere.


It does need to be more fatal to have a useful impact though :(
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Re: Corona virus Europe
« Reply #47 on: 26 February 2020, 21:51:40 »

Wait until the virus hits Africa big time  :o
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Re: Corona virus Europe
« Reply #48 on: 27 February 2020, 00:57:53 »

WHO 19/2/2020 situation report reports that the Chinese recovered death rate is 2.3%. This drops to 0.9% (which is about the same overall death rate for flu so this is x2.5 times more deadly) for the under 50's where it starts to climb to about 14% in the over 80's. Chronic conditions make a massive difference with heart problems top at 10% fatality rate, followed by diabetes at 7%, COPD at 6%, then hypertension. Poo, pooing statistics is fine until you, your families & friends start being one of them and then it gets personal. If you have heart problems, diabetes issues, COPD, kidney problems or hypertension all of these chronic conditions can be made significantly worse with a very reduced rest of life, quality of life if you survive.

Iran's death rate is currently running at 14-15% which suggests there a x5 to x10 more people infected than they have reported.

What it will do is affect people's jobs, incomes, create shortages of food, medicines & lots of other essential items, so expect to take a hit on your quality of life for the next year or 2 or 3 until it is under control. SARs took almost 3 years to eradicate & only involved 8-9,000 people & was much more difficult to catch although the WHO fatality rate was at 14.5%. MERS is very difficult to catch from camels but kills 34% of those infected. At best the first vaccines will become available in 2021 which will then start to help to eradicate it.

The whole idea of the Governments self-isolation policy is not to stop its spread but the rate it is spread, so the NHS is not overwhelmed with the number of pneumonia cases which if they run out of assisted respiratory systems it will push up the mortality rate. The gaussian distribution will have a much, much longer Y time axis, but a much lower backend loaded pneumonia cases peak. The leading experts all think we are beyond the will it become a global pandemic to which countries will do better controlling it than others?

The majority on here are over 50, many with chronic conditions, so be lucky & use basic hygiene procedures like washing your hands regularly with warm soapy water, do touch your face & eyes with dirty hands & used alcohol based sanitisers when available. If you get it then control the spraying of the virus with paper tissues when coughing or sneezing.

That it an escaped bio weapon, is an out & out conspiracy theory as the weapon & antidote are developed together, so you can protect the 'good side' which infecting the 'bad one'. Where the rural Chinese live in their houses with their domesticated animals & will trade in markets & eat any domesticated or wild animals including: dogs, cats, badgers, bats, crivets, snakes, rats, mice (eating baby mice live is considered a delicacy!). The last 3 global diseases that have jumped species in China: pigs->humans swine flu, bats->humans SARS & 93% chance bats->humans Covid-19.
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Re: Corona virus Europe
« Reply #49 on: 27 February 2020, 20:57:39 »

One thing I don't understand is if all these companies telling their staff to stay home and work from there can do that now why can they not do it all the time thus saving countless commuter journeys and attendant pollution?
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Re: Corona virus Europe
« Reply #50 on: 27 February 2020, 21:32:04 »

Because they will arguably be less productive in the long term.
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Re: Corona virus Europe
« Reply #51 on: 28 February 2020, 09:26:03 »

Just watching drop in FTSE 100 share index - 7727 down to 6500 in days
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Re: Corona virus Europe
« Reply #52 on: 28 February 2020, 09:57:48 »

Amazing isn't it.

Dr G's meter is currently showing 2859 deaths.

That makes Covid-19 slightly more lethal than constipation in the US (2100 deaths) but nowhere near as dangerous as contact with agricultural machinery (4100 deaths).

The hype level is ridiculous...
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Re: Corona virus Europe
« Reply #53 on: 28 February 2020, 10:11:19 »

Death by constipation. Now there is a frightening thought.

Theyhad an expert from ABTA  on Sky News this morning.

Q. Does an aeroplane HEPA filter remove corona virus from the air.

A. Airlines don't let passengers on with illnesses. If you feel ill you should tell the steward before boarding and not get on. We remind all travellers of the need for travel insurance.

I can just imagine ringing the “ is it a special hammer” insurance to advise. I didn’t feel too well so excused myself from the return plane journey. You have to pay for my hotel etc.
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Re: Corona virus Europe
« Reply #54 on: 28 February 2020, 10:51:02 »

Picked up this yesterday in local Spanish press

"A 62-year-old man who has been in a Seville hospital for pneumonia since February 20 has been confirmed as the first case of local Covid-19 contagion registered in Spain. The diagnosis is highly significant as it confirms the suspicions of many specialists after the spike in coronavirus cases in Italy: “The virus has been circulating for several days in Spain and we hadn’t detected it,” said the head of infectious diseases at a major Spanish hospital earlier this week.


The patient, who is being treated at the hospital in Seville, is from nearby Huelva and has not left Spain in recent weeks, according to the regional government, who suggested that a “meeting held in Málaga” could have been the origin of his infection."

I think the media have hyped Corona Virus just like they hype everything else. However could any country manage with their GPs and hospitals packed with vulnerable folk ( it isn't just the elderly) suffering from this virus?  Most struggle with what they have from flu and constipation epidemics. ;D 
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Re: Corona virus Europe
« Reply #55 on: 28 February 2020, 11:11:45 »

A spokesperson from Heinz said, on the news this morning, that they were ready to increase production of baked beans should an epidemic of constipation take hold.
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Re: Corona virus Europe
« Reply #56 on: 28 February 2020, 13:44:00 »

A spokesperson from Heinz said, on the news this morning, that they were ready to increase production of baked beans should an epidemic of constipation take hold.

Plenty of overtime for Andy then!  :y

He'll be able to afford to buy a Merc in a nice colour!  ;D
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Re: Corona virus Europe
« Reply #57 on: 28 February 2020, 14:42:49 »

A spokesperson from Heinz said, on the news this morning, that they were ready to increase production of baked beans should an epidemic of constipation take hold.

Plenty of overtime for Andy then!  :y

He'll be able to afford to buy a Merc in a nice colour!  ;D

I think his car is finished in seventies Leyland Russet brown. :)
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Re: Corona virus Europe
« Reply #58 on: 28 February 2020, 14:45:36 »

Amazing isn't it.

Dr G's meter is currently showing 2859 deaths.

That makes Covid-19 slightly more lethal than constipation in the US (2100 deaths) but nowhere near as dangerous as contact with agricultural machinery (4100 deaths).

The hype level is ridiculous...

Eating junk food 24/7 and not knowing what fruit and vegetables are will do this. The average lard-arse yank gets to 600lb and then explodes. :)
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Re: Corona virus Europe
« Reply #59 on: 28 February 2020, 14:46:00 »

A spokesperson from Heinz said, on the news this morning, that they were ready to increase production of baked beans should an epidemic of constipation take hold.

Plenty of overtime for Andy then!  :y

He'll be able to afford to buy a Merc in a nice colour!  ;D
his current Merc is too rusty to tart up with a lick of emulsion paint then  :-\  ;D
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