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[Sir Tigger KC]

Im on side. 
Although you may well cull me. 

Me too! 

As long as 50-something white blokes from the great county of Dorsetshire are exempt from the cull.     

[Olympia5776]

I had a read at this Wiki article this evening just to refresh my memory of it .
I appreciate it's Wiki but most of the salient points can be referenced .
It's quite revealing really and his predictions are uncomfortably close to reality .
I would suggest that he was indeed correct .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_of_Blood_speech

Oh , and I should say that I could not give an Astronauts fart if you don't agree , or feel that some minority are discriminated against .

[Raeturbo]

I’m 100% with you

[Lizzie Zoom]

Perhaps his childhood sweetheart and baby died in childbirth at the hospital due to negligence... Not that they would bother to mention that.

It goes without saying that someone prepared to build and detonate a bomb in their lap has mental health issues  In fact, it's probably a prerequisite...

Yes, indeed.

You must be mad to do such an evil thing like build a bomb, let alone go to a women's hospital to set it off where new life has arrived!

Bloody bastard, thank God he died in the attempt!

There you go again... One moment you're telling us that lots of weird and wonderful fringe minorities live lives of constant misery and it is all our fault because we can't possibly have any notion of the mental health issues that they are blessed with...

The next you are busy dismissing the action of a clearly disturbed individual as an act of simple madness.

Whilst that sinks in, consider that much of what most people do, makes little sense to everyone else.

People within the “diversity” are not all suffering from mental health issues, far from it.  Those issues can arise though when others torment and degrade them to their face, or online.

So there is a big difference in those that are bad / evil and mad, and those who are simply suffering from life’s pressures, within or outside the “normal” sectors of society. That society does consist, as you touch on, of people who certainly do not think the same as the next person; that makes us human.

Hitler was evil, very bad and a lunatic, which even his generals, with a key example being Erwin Rommel,  started to recognise after at least 1942 as his decision making became very erratic.

The man who has just blown himself up outside the women’s hospital was, by all accounts showing no sign of madness.  He was just with evil thought that persuaded him to try and do what we THINK  was the aim; kill innocents.

These two cases are very different, and again I have great experience in the mental health field, so I do know something about what I am trying to explain. In summary, some people are thoroughly evil, some become evil, others become mentally ill but would not be considered evil, the rest of society is a mixture of balanced and almost off of balanced individuals, which displays the tight rope of life we tread.  Those who are Diverse just fall in with the rest of us, and CAN be any of the above!

So that is why I stated what I did, and I hope DG you can understand that.  At no stage though to I interject religion - faith - beliefs into the equation, because then it becomes very muddied!

[Lizzie Zoom]

But others, like Hitler are bad and mad

Probably started out with good ideas, maybe. But, ultimately, was a racist, evil bastard.

Trouble is, most things written about his earlier years are written from the viewpoint of his later actions.  He was democratically elected, so he must have struck a cord at that time.

Yes, indeed. Before he started to go to war, he was recognised as being a great new German leader who created a thriving industrial state, full employment, new transport links, after the disastrous depression that had brought the German State which Hitler blamed on Jews, foreigners, and the Versailles Treaty concocted by the “enemy” to its knees.  He raised the morale, pride and national confidence in the people, who witnessed their Germany become a world power again.  It was all good.

But his evil, that actually you can try and read in his book Mein Kampf ( difficult to do as generally it is a rant of madness and evil that hints of the major events to come) was raising its terrible head in the discrimination, arrests and beatings of the “minorities” and those considered enemies of the State, which in any other democracy are recognised as legitimate opposition.

The madness, and pure Evil of Hitler and his gang then came on fully and we know what happened next -  result 65+ million dead, and lives ruined worldwide.

So TB, with your cull once started you must be able to control its end

[Doctor Gollum]

The end is easy. You either run out of means or people.

[Doctor Gollum]

But others, like Hitler are bad and mad

Probably started out with good ideas, maybe. But, ultimately, was a racist, evil bastard.

Trouble is, most things written about his earlier years are written from the viewpoint of his later actions.  He was democratically elected, so he must have struck a cord at that time.

Yes, indeed. Before he started to go to war, he was recognised as being a great new German leader who created a thriving industrial state, full employment, new transport links, after the disastrous depression that had brought the German State which Hitler blamed on Jews, foreigners, and the Versailles Treaty concocted by the “enemy” to its knees.  He raised the morale, pride and national confidence in the people, who witnessed their Germany become a world power again.  It was all good.

But his evil, that actually you can try and read in his book Mein Kampf ( difficult to do as generally it is a rant of madness and evil that hints of the major events to come) was raising its terrible head in the discrimination, arrests and beatings of the “minorities” and those considered enemies of the State, which in any other democracy are recognised as legitimate opposition.

The madness, and pure Evil of Hitler and his gang then came on fully and we know what happened next -  result 65+ million dead, and lives ruined worldwide.

So TB, with your cull once started you must be able to control its end

Perhaps his childhood sweetheart and baby died in childbirth at the hospital due to negligence... Not that they would bother to mention that.

It goes without saying that someone prepared to build and detonate a bomb in their lap has mental health issues  In fact, it's probably a prerequisite...

Yes, indeed.

You must be mad to do such an evil thing like build a bomb, let alone go to a women's hospital to set it off where new life has arrived!

Bloody bastard, thank God he died in the attempt!

Make your mind up and stick to it.

First he must be mad, then he is evil, then all of a sudden, he is on a par with Hitler.

And, by the way, all those minorities you seem so keen to divisify are actually lots of very different groups with some very different ideas. So, again, when I suggested that you should see ALL the colours of the rainbow, that is exactly what I meant. Your 'experience, expertise and advice' focuses on a disproportionate representation of the collective minorities and serves little benefit to anyone as all the attention is focused on one broad sweep rather than the pieces of the puzzle.

Oh, in case you missed it, this so called terrorist (back to the whole war on terror BS), was a recently converted Christian. You can ignore and skirt around it, but that's the reality of it. And, Incidentally, he isn't the first recently converted Christian housed and helped by weird do gooders Christian surrogates who has gone on to try to cause harm and distruction... The chemical bomber on a train in SW Lundun a few years ago to name but one.

And that's before we get started on the whole still here seven years after he was denied asylum and an appeal 

[Lizzie Zoom]

But others, like Hitler are bad and mad

Probably started out with good ideas, maybe. But, ultimately, was a racist, evil bastard.

Trouble is, most things written about his earlier years are written from the viewpoint of his later actions.  He was democratically elected, so he must have struck a cord at that time.

Yes, indeed. Before he started to go to war, he was recognised as being a great new German leader who created a thriving industrial state, full employment, new transport links, after the disastrous depression that had brought the German State which Hitler blamed on Jews, foreigners, and the Versailles Treaty concocted by the “enemy” to its knees.  He raised the morale, pride and national confidence in the people, who witnessed their Germany become a world power again.  It was all good.

But his evil, that actually you can try and read in his book Mein Kampf ( difficult to do as generally it is a rant of madness and evil that hints of the major events to come) was raising its terrible head in the discrimination, arrests and beatings of the “minorities” and those considered enemies of the State, which in any other democracy are recognised as legitimate opposition.

The madness, and pure Evil of Hitler and his gang then came on fully and we know what happened next -  result 65+ million dead, and lives ruined worldwide.

So TB, with your cull once started you must be able to control its end

Perhaps his childhood sweetheart and baby died in childbirth at the hospital due to negligence... Not that they would bother to mention that.

It goes without saying that someone prepared to build and detonate a bomb in their lap has mental health issues  In fact, it's probably a prerequisite...

Yes, indeed.

You must be mad to do such an evil thing like build a bomb, let alone go to a women's hospital to set it off where new life has arrived!

Bloody bastard, thank God he died in the attempt!

Make your mind up and stick to it.

First he must be mad, then he is evil, then all of a sudden, he is on a par with Hitler.

And, by the way, all those minorities you seem so keen to divisify are actually lots of very different groups with some very different ideas. So, again, when I suggested that you should see ALL the colours of the rainbow, that is exactly what I meant. Your 'experience, expertise and advice' focuses on a disproportionate representation of the collective minorities and serves little benefit to anyone as all the attention is focused on one broad sweep rather than the pieces of the puzzle.

Oh, in case you missed it, this so called terrorist (back to the whole war on terror BS), was a recently converted Christian. You can ignore and skirt around it, but that's the reality of it. And, Incidentally, he isn't the first recently converted Christian housed and helped by weird do gooders Christian surrogates who has gone on to try to cause harm and distruction... The chemical bomber on a train in SW Lundun a few years ago to name but one.

And that's before we get started on the whole still here seven years after he was denied asylum and an appeal 

I have and stuck with it. 

I have not said that, and would not dream of comparing one suicide bomber with the lunatic, megalomaniac, Hitler!  You really do love twisting words and statements of mine and others.

As for that bomber, know one yet knows what was in his mind, what his objectives were, and if he was simply mad or just pure evil.

We live in an imperfect World and labels cannot be attached to particular sectors of society as we ALL are so diverse, as you and I prove!!

[Doctor Gollum]

The Borg Collective is diverse.

WE are individuals.

And actually, you did compare him with Hitler, contextually at least.

And as for your last statement, please

If you genuinely believe that you wouldn't be so quick to embrace the box ticking woke nonsense that you claim to represent.

[LC0112G]

In university debating, the first team to mention Hitler or the Nazi's loses by default. It's a rule I try to stick to when arguing any disputable point 

[Lizzie Zoom]

The Borg Collective is diverse.

WE are individuals.

And actually, you did compare him with Hitler, contextually at least.

And as for your last statement, please

If you genuinely believe that you wouldn't be so quick to embrace the box ticking woke nonsense that you claim to represent.

The "Woke nonsense" is just that, other humans attaching labels to certain sectors of society to degrade them and make others feel better.  As a consequence we have the LGBTQ+ sectors purely because the so called majority of our society cannot just live and let live, accept we are ALL different, "individuals" as you DG correctly state, but have to isolate them to their groups, which currently they fill for protection from the hate aimed in their direction.  Vicious circle really!

[Lizzie Zoom]

In university debating, the first team to mention Hitler or the Nazi's loses by default. It's a rule I try to stick to when arguing any disputable point 

It was not at my uni when reading and debating 20th century history, far from it.  Especially when the room was blessed by international students and the debates covered their former USSR states, Stalin, Hitler, and how their grandparents / parents now felt about all of it. 

Study and debate of the philosophers, like Plato, Hobbes, Machiavelli and Nietzsche, in connection with 20th century history also frequently brought up the subject of Hitler and the Nazis generally.

No one can avoid THAT name in any debate based on that period of history, and before in the period from The Great War and WW2, then beyond that

[Doctor Gollum]

Labels highlight differences and single them out. That's why diversity is such a hateful oxymoron because it draws attention to diffences rather than accepting them.

And, in order to save interweb space, the only reason Hitler has been mentioned in a discussion about a suicide bomber in Liverpool is because YOU brought him up. 

I bet he was  Lutheran to boot. 

[Lizzie Zoom]

Labels highlight differences and single them out. That's why diversity is such a hateful oxymoron because it draws attention to diffences rather than accepting them.

And, in order to save interweb space, the only reason Hitler has been mentioned in a discussion about a suicide bomber in Liverpool is because YOU brought him up. 

I bet he was  Lutheran to boot. 

Exactly right, and that is what I am saying, so we agree on that!!

If everyone just forgot the differences of individuals in all ways then the Diversity sector, like the LGBT and BLAM movements, would not have to exist.  There would be no need for them if we just accepted everyone is different; some have different coloured skin, other are gay, and so on.  Live and let live is what I keep on saying

As for the mention of Hitler; yes I can over do that one, but he is such a key historical figure that effected our lives, and in some ways still does through certain fascist movements that certainly do not accept "Diversity".  It is hard not to mention him when discussing the individual within the State and how their rights, freedoms, and very existence can be fatefully affected by such a monster that WE could in the future accept within our society, like the Germans did, if we forget the lessons of that period of history.   

As for Hitler's religion, that is a matter of great debate and no one has come to a conclusion on that point.  Sometimes he was seen as being Christian, but then changed to be far more an Atheist.  He certainly championed science over the Christian faith, believing it would be swept away by that discipline. He changed his mind, as he changed his general views day by day, probably due to the effects of the drugs he was taking.  I think though we can correctly state that Hitler was far from being a good Christian, or believing in our God.  He more and more believed in the German Heroic God, and became convinced he was being directed by him in his campaign for the Thousand Year Reich.

[Doctor Gollum]

No, we don't agree. You say that they should have labels ie 'the diversity sector' (FFS, really ) because they are different. You may as well call it 'The Mutant Zone'.

I say it's the labels that highlight and isolate everyone. It's you and your ilk, (misguided do gooders fearful of melting snowflakes), that cause these abhorrent, devicive policies to come to fruition.