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[Doctor Gollum]

What's good for the goose... 

[Lizzie Zoom]

Calling it The Diversity Sector is the epitome of a label.

Using a catch all label to identify a collection of groups of individuals so that they don't feel labelled is a pretty good definition of insanity, and it's a pity that you can't see that for what it is. And constantly labelling people is the polar opposite of live and let live.

And I dread to ask wth 'BLAM' is

You know I have mistyped and I meant BAME, but yet again you have to split hairs, faulting my every word and statement.  What is up with you?

As others have said, childish nonsense that I should not rise to, and now must stop doing so!   

I didn't know you had mistyped anything... The letters are nowhere near each other

And again you highlight the nonsense thinking behind such nomenclature... I wonder how Asian feel about being lumped in with Blacks or Afro Caribbeans with East African, and then dumped into the Pit of Divisity.

What's divinity? Did you mistype? Tee hee 

He actually typed “divisity”, so yes even our DG can get spelling wrong, but does not excuse others who do so!   

[Lizzie Zoom]

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjfxMLY6Z_0AhXResAKHWjiAxYQFnoECAQQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.oxfordreference.com%2Fview%2F10.1093%2Foi%2Fauthority.20110810105009431&usg=AOvVaw0VsDnqa7quNF2ukTqj2Ok5

It is a so called “law” that restricts the open discussion about fascism, neo Nazis, and the right wing generally, before the truth about this enemy of democracy can be fully debated to it’s conclusion.

And some on here argue so strongly about protecting free speech……..

[Doctor Gollum]

Nope, I typed divisity because that is exactly what it is... Divisive.

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/11/396906/-

[STEMO]

Nope, I typed divisity because that is exactly what it is... Divisive.

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/11/396906/-

Wow, he sounds disturbed 

[Raeturbo]

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjfxMLY6Z_0AhXResAKHWjiAxYQFnoECAQQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.oxfordreference.com%2Fview%2F10.1093%2Foi%2Fauthority.20110810105009431&usg=AOvVaw0VsDnqa7quNF2ukTqj2Ok5

It is a so called “law” that restricts the open discussion about fascism, neo Nazis, and the right wing generally, before the truth about this enemy of democracy can be fully debated to it’s conclusion.

And some on here argue so strongly about protecting free speech……..

               I know exactly what it is that’s why I posted it👍 There are many interpretations as to what it is too

[Doctor Gollum]

Nope, I typed divisity because that is exactly what it is... Divisive.

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/11/396906/-

Wow, he sounds disturbed 

What? Like Hitler? 

As it goes, that was one of the more interesting things that popped up if you type in 'Divisity' and ignore the default 'you meant Diversity didn't you' prompts

[Raeturbo]

Research is your friend

[LC0112G]

So you have been present at a those debates?

Yes.

I know you have not because you would know that, especially the Oxford Union Debating Society, is well known for it’s highly controversial debates with speakers from all political and historical back ground, often breaking any so called “rules”.::Indeed only 2 weeks ago did a debate involving historian Andrew Graham-Dixon at the Oxford Union go disastrously wrong when he used language of, and imitated Hitler.

The debate was at the Cambridge Union, and the motion under discussion was "There is no such thing as good taste’". So nothing directly to do with History. Andrew Graham-Dixon's side lost the vote.

So you think debates at our universities, who are not Cambridge or Oxford, are just “students debating amongst themselves in halls of residence” and are lacking in credibility. How you do not know how modern universities perform, with full debates involving professors on their area of expertise, and sometimes guest speakers from government or other official body that invite active, informed, discussion.

How dare you belittle unis, such as mine, Canterbury Christ Church University, and come out with such tosh to try and raise the worth of your weak argument.  For your information I have spent my managerial years in numerous large scale debate, then further at university for 3 years, so I think I am well qualified to say debates are for me even in my now senior years!

You are free to believe what you want about things I've neither written nor meant. I am simply telling you the rules (admitedly mostly unwritten) that get used in debates I was and occasionally still am involved in. Again you are free to believe me or not.

[Lizzie Zoom]

So you have been present at a those debates?

Yes.

I know you have not because you would know that, especially the Oxford Union Debating Society, is well known for it’s highly controversial debates with speakers from all political and historical back ground, often breaking any so called “rules”.::Indeed only 2 weeks ago did a debate involving historian Andrew Graham-Dixon at the Oxford Union go disastrously wrong when he used language of, and imitated Hitler.

The debate was at the Cambridge Union, and the motion under discussion was "There is no such thing as good taste’". So nothing directly to do with History. Andrew Graham-Dixon's side lost the vote.

So you think debates at our universities, who are not Cambridge or Oxford, are just “students debating amongst themselves in halls of residence” and are lacking in credibility. How you do not know how modern universities perform, with full debates involving professors on their area of expertise, and sometimes guest speakers from government or other official body that invite active, informed, discussion.

How dare you belittle unis, such as mine, Canterbury Christ Church University, and come out with such tosh to try and raise the worth of your weak argument.  For your information I have spent my managerial years in numerous large scale debate, then further at university for 3 years, so I think I am well qualified to say debates are for me even in my now senior years!

You are free to believe what you want about things I've neither written nor meant. I am simply telling you the rules (admitedly mostly unwritten) that get used in debates I was and occasionally still am involved in. Again you are free to believe me or not.

Yes, I believe you and I am sorry I took the tone I did with you. I just wish I could have attended one of those debates.   

  I was just fed up of all the flak that I thought I would be more controversial than normal! Whatever I say, usually always from the heart and what I believe, it will be criticised by a certain element of individuals on here. But, hey ho, I have faced much worse in business in the real World!

Yes I know it was Cambridge, and the historian specialises in art, which may explain why he was so crass and appalling on the day.  But the Oxford Pledge in 1933 was so controversial, and I believe is the worst / best one ever! )

[STEMO]

The best place for debating is the pub. Always has been.

[Lizzie Zoom]

The best place for debating is the pub. Always has been.

As a women that would be the worst place for me!

[Doctor Gollum]

The best place for debating is the pub. Always has been.

As a women that would be the worst place for me!

Why? Plenty of women go to the pub. Your reinforcement of such stereotypical attitudes does nothing positive for gender equality.

If you had said 'as a trans person it has always been difficult for me to go out by myself and drink socially' that might actually make sense, but the whole 'woe is me, a weak and feeble woman' is, at best, cringe worthy.

Everytime I read a comment like that I picture David Walliams, with full beard saying 'I'm a Laydee...' 

[Lizzie Zoom]

The best place for debating is the pub. Always has been.

As a women that would be the worst place for me!

Why? Plenty of women go to the pub. Your reinforcement of such stereotypical attitudes does nothing positive for gender equality.

If you had said 'as a trans person it has always been difficult for me to go out by myself and drink socially' that might actually make sense, but the whole 'woe is me, a weak and feeble woman' is, at best, cringe worthy.

Everytime I read a comment like that I picture David Walliams, with full beard saying 'I'm a Laydee...' 

That is extremely insulting to me as a biological women, let alone those who are trans!

You just cannot stop the digs and childish comments.

You know all too well that in a pub with men “debating” or should that be “arguing” with testestorone thick in the are they will not listen to the group of us women sitting around a table just enjoying the social event.

You are so keen to type what you do on a keyboard, I suspect to make yourself feel important away from your tedious and undemanding job at your age going nowhere!  You see I can also be really insulting to someone who is as you are on here - unfriendly and simply very nasty!!!

Well now I am finally going to ignore your posts as others have recommended, but I have put off thinking there is always hope.  With you there is no hope!

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

The best place for debating is the pub. Always has been.

As a women that would be the worst place for me!

Why? Plenty of women go to the pub. Your reinforcement of such stereotypical attitudes does nothing positive for gender equality.

If you had said 'as a trans person it has always been difficult for me to go out by myself and drink socially' that might actually make sense, but the whole 'woe is me, a weak and feeble woman' is, at best, cringe worthy.

Everytime I read a comment like that I picture David Walliams, with full beard saying 'I'm a Laydee...' 

Was this from 'Little Britain'?......which was very funny except  for those who love to be offended (usually on behalf of somebody else)