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[Raeturbo]

Well done mate👍 and glad you’re enjoying it not prancing about😎🤣👍👍

[RallyArde]

Itīs been a busy month for me with my daily drive, so I havenīt been able to bring ny updates here, but first of all.. thanks again from feedback





At end of June I took the car to re-alignment. The mechnanic said that cambers at front were okay, but toe-angles were all wrong and the cars actual thrust angle was 0.05   They corrected it and suprise suprise, it was drivable again! On damp conditions itīs very slidy, but managable, you can feel rear and also re-gain traction without that horrible "water on ice"- effect. I would say that rear feels now more like a piece of butter on a hot pan, just like Omega should



Last weekend it was +25 warm in here, so engine temperatures were near 90 and fans were kicking in quite often. And when  comes to driving/cornering on dry conditions, itīs obviously bit more snappy, cause traction breaks more violently, but again (at least for me) more managable and pretty easy to catch.

[Doctor Gollum]

You need better tyres.

The omega isn't particularly tail happy as a rule.

I've lost the rear of a Vectra C estate more times than any rwd car I have owned. Even the S500 which currently has no ABS/Traction Control.

[RallyArde]

You need better tyres.

The omega isn't particularly tail happy as a rule.

I've lost the rear of a Vectra C estate more times than any rwd car I have owned. Even the S500 which currently has no ABS/Traction Control.

Well.. maybe Iīve had three deceptions of that rule then   All the Omegas that I had, share the same tendency to oversteer. Ofcourse if you turn the wheels too much in the beginning youīll break the frontend traction (as exceeding the slip angle of the front wheels   ), thatīs for sure in every car. But regarding which profiled tyres Iīm using the rear likes to break first not the nose, and thatīs completely fine to me.

Iīve driven different sizes 225/55R16, 215/55R16, 225/45R17, 205/55R16 and from various brands, Kapsen, Nang Kang, Triangle, Ovation, RoadX, Nokia, etc.

Itīs the Omegas natural balance or thatīs how I feel it. Iīve had other RWD cars as well, Mk1 Sierras, 325i E90 and few FWDs. Omega certainly has the most predictable handling of these all

[Doctor Gollum]

I wouldn't consider any of those tyres to be good.

That's not to say that there aren't budget tyres that can perform reasonably well, the Runway Enduros I.used.to.swear by on the Omega being an example... Did over 100k miles on them without traction issues, even in snow.

That said,.f it's not the tyres then it's an ability problem.

[RallyArde]

I wouldn't consider any of those tyres to be good.

Iīm in tight budget

To be honest, I had set Goodyears (225/45R17) in BMW, and they donīt offer endless grip either, rear will break out, but from higher speed, when you pushing it. There is a difference between cheap and expensive tire, but thatīs not the reason of any cars nature.

[Doctor Gollum]

It's one thing to chirp they tyres pulling out of a junction expeditiously

But if you're trying to slide it at every opportunity, then you'll eventually run out of talent. With luck you'll only damage your ego and the car...

[RallyArde]

Iīm not completely sure which one your arguments you are actually standing for?

What are the alignment settings?

The steering shouldn't feel overly light, but there's always a very slight dead spot straight ahead... This is a normal side effect of a steering box when compared to a rack, but weird is never a positive description.

=allignment was incorrect.

Whilst still shit, one brand of cheap tyres will perform unpredictably under certain conditions when compared to another.

If everything is playing free at the back and you haven't changed anything then I don't see how it can be an alignment issue 

To properly check the diff/rear subframe mounts, support but DO NOT lift the diff with a jack. Then undo one of the mount carriers. If the frame falls off, then the mount is done. Refit and repeat the other side.

You won't get any noise when these fail, but it will allow the weight at the back of the car to move in ways that you can't predict.

=allignment is ok, but subframe is loose (despite all round new bushes)

You need better tyres.

The omega isn't particularly tail happy as a rule.

I've lost the rear of a Vectra C estate more times than any rwd car I have owned. Even the S500 which currently has no ABS/Traction Control.

=tyres arenīt good enough.

It's one thing to chirp they tyres pulling out of a junction expeditiously

But if you're trying to slide it at every opportunity, then you'll eventually run out of talent. With luck you'll only damage your ego and the car...

=Iīm a poor driver?


Well... Iīm an amateur thatīs for sure, allthough my point is not to exceed my own or cars limits, that would be stupid and dangerous. But the first three arguments that I quoted are bit against each other  

[Doctor Gollum]

The internet is full of videos of people who think they can drive.

If the subframe is "loose", then the alignment is a waste of time as the settings aren't variable.

The second may be the foundation of the issue coupled with shit tyres, the first is somewhat subjective, but you might be onto something.

The Omega is stable enough, for sure, but it should never be tail happy. That itself is an indication of a problem.

As to a person's ability... Don't underestimate the underperformance of others.