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[cam.in.head]

ps .did you sort the dash ?

[TheBoy]

I found Bilstein B4's lasted well on mine (>100k and I think scrapped with them still on) as well, but I got them at a sensible price.  B4 is supposedly similar to factory spec, though I've heard some say they felt hard (probably because the old shocks they took off were utterly fubar)

The Sachs ones are the factory fit shocks, Bilsteins are an equivalent at best. And their supplied fittings are dire compared to the Sachs ones which are indistinguishable from the genuine VX parts in my experience.

Don't recall any fitting issues with either fronts or saloon rears.

I only mention them because they lasted so much longer than the ones from the dealer, for similar price

[Doctor Gollum]

ATP are doing the Sacha ones for ~€45 each

[Webby the Bear]

Thank you all for ur input. I’ll give it a go trying to get the photos up. My colleagues don’t think it’s bad at all. But I don’t like it lol

CiH… yes mate I’m still to remove the cluster. Only reason I haven’t was I found this rust 🤦‍♂️

There may be an incoming PM soon 🤣😎

Thanks guys.

[VXL V6]

I found Bilstein B4's lasted well on mine (>100k and I think scrapped with them still on) as well, but I got them at a sensible price.  B4 is supposedly similar to factory spec, though I've heard some say they felt hard (probably because the old shocks they took off were utterly fubar)

The Sachs ones are the factory fit shocks, Bilsteins are an equivalent at best. And their supplied fittings are dire compared to the Sachs ones which are indistinguishable from the genuine VX parts in my experience.

Don't recall any fitting issues with either fronts or saloon rears.

I only mention them because they lasted so much longer than the ones from the dealer, for similar price

No me either, fitting kit with B4's were fine with the sets I bought (fitted full sets to three or four Omegas IIRC). Rears on black car are weeping now, but with the age, mileage and style of driving i'd say it's fair enough.

[Doctor Gollum]

The Sachs shocks, along withIrmscher and dealer supplied have the factory upper mounts. Bilstein do not.

Yes, they fit, but they're not a patch on the genuine ones.

[TheBoy]

Yes, they fit, but they're not a patch on the genuine ones.

I have to disagree.  They are much of a muchness, but the B4's last significantly longer in my experience.

[Doctor Gollum]

Perhaps they have upped their game since I was regularly doing suspension work on various members cars... To be fair to Bilstein, it was about 15 years ago... But what I know is that on at least two occasions I had to reuse the mounting hardware that came off because the Bilstein supplied parts simply didn't fit or resemble the original parts.

All my cars got either genuine or Sachs aftermarket, even my last Omega, a £400 estate. In no small part due to previous experience. And why I still won't recommend them.

I only recommend stuff that I have positive experience of, agree or disagree at leisure 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Is there a way to put photos on here?

https://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=137219.0

[TheBoy]

To be fair to Bilstein, it was about 15 years ago

Around the same era I'd suggest .  In fact, the B4's that went on the back of the mighty Silver Bullet around that time - and everyone who had a go in that car said it was one of the best handling Omega's they'd ever driven - stayed on for over 100k before the car was scrapped in 2017, at whilst point the shocks and springs were swapped over to TBE and used as a daily to Coventry and back until the chinky batflu came, so probably did another 50k on that car as well. And, no, they weren't knackered even after that time.

I only recommend stuff that I have positive experience of, agree or disagree at leisure 

Exactly! Hence why I said that I felt B4's were every bit as good as OE/Sachs/ZF on performance grounds, but lasted significantly longer than the 30-40k I got from those.

It's also why I've always said those front suspension kits ATP used to sell are a waste of money, because, well, they are - they don't last and can't be refurbed. And why I said ATP as a company are a shit to deal with when things go wrong with the order or the item.

[Doctor Gollum]

The cheap ATP shit served a purpose and could be refurbished to a point, but it was, and still is, advisable to t
treat cheap parts as a service item. 

Whether ATP are any better than the likes of Autodoc or Eurocrapparts is always going to be open for debate. 

[Webby the Bear]

Evening guys.

Happy to report I’ve tonight got the dremel out and it appears to be only surface rust. Touch wood.
I’ve painted the hydrate80 stuff on. It’s still up on stand so I can keep coating it all week lol
And then I’ll paint.

Touch wood there’s no dramas when I go through the rest of the car. 😃

Thanks for all ur help boyos. 🥰

[cam.in.head]

thats great news .if you've been pretty severe in that area and found no holes then thats good.just need to keep it all well protected and deal with any rust as and when you find it .that way you dont get any suprises .

[cam.in.head]

also worth noting if you intend on keeping the car (which i assume you do !) is to remove the sill covers and repair any bits you find under there. virtually guaranteed that there will be some holes ,same goes for the inner rear lower arches under the black plastic cover /sill ends. once repaired and suitably rust proofed you should be ok for many years then. (whilst this area is being done it might be a good idea to replace the rear end of the sill and up the arch inside the rear door area as they all seem to rust there too (eventually if not now ?)!. i did mine 10 years ago shortly after i got it and just rechecked them again this summer. all still good.
all cars rust .possibly even new ones eventually with their better protection ( if the electrics dont get them first !) but omegas dont fare too badly at all especially if youve spent a lifetime working on pre 90's stuff and way older which often were rotten after only a few years.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Did all of the above on mine within the last month or so.
Now in the process of doing a very similar job on Sons 05 Civic. Although there is only one area around 4 inches square that will need welding on that.
The Omega needed a lot more, but its all done now and hopefully ok for quite a few years.