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[markfree]

Sounds like your bios is corrupted - try re-flashing your bios - dont know how? - google "reflashing bios" - it could also be a dud battery although unlikely if you've swapped boards - you're bios chip could also need replacing - there is definitely something wrong with your bios if you need to keep changing the date/time.

[Welung666]

Sounds like your bios is corrupted - try re-flashing your bios - dont know how? - google "reflashing bios" - it could also be a dud battery although unlikely if you've swapped boards - you're bios chip could also need replacing - there is definitely something wrong with your bios if you need to keep changing the date/time.

I don't have to keep changing the date and time! Brand spanking new motherboard - battery = new, BIOS = latest version. It would be amazing that I could get the exact same symptoms on 2 completely different motherboards/ram modules/hard drives.

Anyway tried another psu, no difference so looks like graphics card then. Still baffled as to how that will affect anything prior to BIOS loading up tho!

[gwa]

I got what you meant GWA BSOD sorted, took 1 PCI card out at a time till it stopped, damn usb 2.0 card Still got the blank screen thing tho

OK. Back to basics!

1. Remove any video card that you've plugged in
2. enter BIOS if enabled, disable 'On-Board' video
3. power on and start in Safe Mode if possible
4. if not enter BIOS and enable 'On-Board' video if disabled
5. power on and start in Safe Mode if possible
6. whilst in Safe Mode enter Device Manager and look for conflicts

After the above you should at least be in a better diagnostic position.
Did you ever install software for the monitor, sometimes they come with a CD. If you did and you can get to Safe Mode, try uninstalling it.
It really is a process of elimination.

And as a final, have you tried another monitor if you are having problems? I had allsorts a few months ago and it turned out to be the Xerox monitor (made in China) that I bought from PC World.

[Welung666]

I got what you meant GWA BSOD sorted, took 1 PCI card out at a time till it stopped, damn usb 2.0 card Still got the blank screen thing tho

OK. Back to basics!

1. Remove any video card that you've plugged in
2. enter BIOS if enabled, disable 'On-Board' video
3. power on and start in Safe Mode if possible
4. if not enter BIOS and enable 'On-Board' video if disabled
5. power on and start in Safe Mode if possible
6. whilst in Safe Mode enter Device Manager and look for conflicts

After the above you should at least be in a better diagnostic position.
Did you ever install software for the monitor, sometimes they come with a CD. If you did and you can get to Safe Mode, try uninstalling it.
It really is a process of elimination.

And as a final, have you tried another monitor if you are having problems? I had allsorts a few months ago and it turned out to be the Xerox monitor (made in China) that I bought from PC World.

Back to basics indeed! If I reset the CMOS and enter bios, then save it the pc will go to restart and stay blank screen PRE-POST! The only way of getting any further is to reset the CMOS again. Also no on-board graphics on this motherboard.

[gwa]

I got what you meant GWA BSOD sorted, took 1 PCI card out at a time till it stopped, damn usb 2.0 card Still got the blank screen thing tho

OK. Back to basics!

1. Remove any video card that you've plugged in
2. enter BIOS if enabled, disable 'On-Board' video
3. power on and start in Safe Mode if possible
4. if not enter BIOS and enable 'On-Board' video if disabled
5. power on and start in Safe Mode if possible
6. whilst in Safe Mode enter Device Manager and look for conflicts

After the above you should at least be in a better diagnostic position.
Did you ever install software for the monitor, sometimes they come with a CD. If you did and you can get to Safe Mode, try uninstalling it.
It really is a process of elimination.

And as a final, have you tried another monitor if you are having problems? I had allsorts a few months ago and it turned out to be the Xerox monitor (made in China) that I bought from PC World.

Back to basics indeed! If I reset the CMOS and enter bios, then save it the pc will go to restart and stay blank screen PRE-POST! The only way of getting any further is to reset the CMOS again. Also no on-board graphics on this motherboard.

Can you try another monitor to eliminate? borrow one from a friend or close OOF member?

[Welung666]

I have 3 monitors on my desk tried all 3 with the same results. Still don't see how that will affect pre-post problem tho. Like I said the PC is running fine (using it now!) it's just if I re-start!

[Welung666]

Well f*!k it! It can stay like this! It's running with the SATA drive sitting on the floor and an un-activated version of Vista on it. Next payday I'll see about replacing the bits I haven't so far! Piece of cr@p  

[cem_devecioglu]

Sounds like your bios is corrupted - try re-flashing your bios - dont know how? - google "reflashing bios" - it could also be a dud battery although unlikely if you've swapped boards - you're bios chip could also need replacing - there is definitely something wrong with your bios if you need to keep changing the date/time.

I don't have to keep changing the date and time! Brand spanking new motherboard - battery = new, BIOS = latest version. It would be amazing that I could get the exact same symptoms on 2 completely different motherboards/ram modules/hard drives.

Anyway tried another psu, no difference so looks like graphics card then. Still baffled as to how that will affect anything prior to BIOS loading up tho!

afraid so.. :-/

[cem_devecioglu]

I got what you meant GWA BSOD sorted, took 1 PCI card out at a time till it stopped, damn usb 2.0 card Still got the blank screen thing tho

OK. Back to basics!

1. Remove any video card that you've plugged in
2. enter BIOS if enabled, disable 'On-Board' video
3. power on and start in Safe Mode if possible
4. if not enter BIOS and enable 'On-Board' video if disabled
5. power on and start in Safe Mode if possible
6. whilst in Safe Mode enter Device Manager and look for conflicts

After the above you should at least be in a better diagnostic position.
Did you ever install software for the monitor, sometimes they come with a CD. If you did and you can get to Safe Mode, try uninstalling it.
It really is a process of elimination.

And as a final, have you tried another monitor if you are having problems? I had allsorts a few months ago and it turned out to be the Xerox monitor (made in China) that I bought from PC World.

new mobo no on board graphics card..
have you ever used parachute  sorry just joking

[gwa]

I got what you meant GWA BSOD sorted, took 1 PCI card out at a time till it stopped, damn usb 2.0 card Still got the blank screen thing tho

OK. Back to basics!

1. Remove any video card that you've plugged in
2. enter BIOS if enabled, disable 'On-Board' video
3. power on and start in Safe Mode if possible
4. if not enter BIOS and enable 'On-Board' video if disabled
5. power on and start in Safe Mode if possible
6. whilst in Safe Mode enter Device Manager and look for conflicts

After the above you should at least be in a better diagnostic position.
Did you ever install software for the monitor, sometimes they come with a CD. If you did and you can get to Safe Mode, try uninstalling it.
It really is a process of elimination.

And as a final, have you tried another monitor if you are having problems? I had allsorts a few months ago and it turned out to be the Xerox monitor (made in China) that I bought from PC World.

new mobo no on board graphics card..
have you ever used parachute  sorry just joking

Thats OK. Its just that I'm old and they used call them video before graphics was invented  

[cem_devecioglu]

I got what you meant GWA BSOD sorted, took 1 PCI card out at a time till it stopped, damn usb 2.0 card Still got the blank screen thing tho

OK. Back to basics!

1. Remove any video card that you've plugged in
2. enter BIOS if enabled, disable 'On-Board' video
3. power on and start in Safe Mode if possible
4. if not enter BIOS and enable 'On-Board' video if disabled
5. power on and start in Safe Mode if possible
6. whilst in Safe Mode enter Device Manager and look for conflicts

After the above you should at least be in a better diagnostic position.
Did you ever install software for the monitor, sometimes they come with a CD. If you did and you can get to Safe Mode, try uninstalling it.
It really is a process of elimination.

And as a final, have you tried another monitor if you are having problems? I had allsorts a few months ago and it turned out to be the Xerox monitor (made in China) that I bought from PC World.

new mobo no on board graphics card..
have you ever used parachute  sorry just joking

Thats OK. Its just that I'm old and they used call them video before graphics was invented  

old fellas always welcome

[gwa]

I have 3 monitors on my desk tried all 3 with the same results. Still don't see how that will affect pre-post problem tho. Like I said the PC is running fine (using it now!) it's just if I re-start!

Just had a thought, is that warm reboot or an old fashioned switch off and on again? Check the manufacturers website for BIOS or Firmware  upgrades.

[Welung666]

I have 3 monitors on my desk tried all 3 with the same results. Still don't see how that will affect pre-post problem tho. Like I said the PC is running fine (using it now!) it's just if I re-start!

Just had a thought, is that warm reboot or an old fashioned switch off and on again? Check the manufacturers website for BIOS or Firmware  upgrades.

Same result on both, checked BIOS version installed with manuf. website and current version.