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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #15 on: 23 February 2009, 09:32:15 »

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When learning anything you need to focus on enough things to challenge, but, throw too many things in to worry about and you don't make progress. It's just demoralising and overwhelming.

Take out the cornering and the other traffic. Find somewhere straight and quiet (e.g Business park at the weekend) and concentrate, as said, on moving off, changing speed and stopping using the gears correctly. Once that's progressing you can start throwing in some corners, practicing adjusting the speed on the run up to the corner, with correct use of the gears.

TBH, if at all possible, it's probably best left to a driving instructor for tthe reasons already cited.

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she has had loads of lessons with a driing instructor and when she has pulled away from the house she had been great

i think its the change of car
different size clutch bitting point gears etc etc
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #16 on: 23 February 2009, 09:32:46 »

I'm in total agreement with the Holy Count. Total disaster to try to teach family, I saw that many many years ago with my Mum & Dad. SWMBO, learned with a driving school as did both  my kids.
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #17 on: 23 February 2009, 09:34:30 »

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Tigra gearhshift etc is the same as a Corsa.

Like I said, stick with it.

Get her to sit in the car for 10 mins at a time just running the gear lever through all the cogs whilst looking throught the window to improve familiarity with the position.

great tip never thought of that one

ive told her we will start from the basics as if she is a complete new driver and start right from the begining
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #18 on: 23 February 2009, 09:34:40 »

When I was a learner, we popped the L plates on my clapped out C reg multicoloured 957cc fiesta.... I got my granddad to sit in the passenger seat, and drove him for miles and miles....

Driving with family can work - but I think it's important to get up to speed with an instructor first...  :y
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #19 on: 23 February 2009, 09:36:08 »

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I'm in total agreement with the Holy Count. Total disaster to try to teach family, I saw that many many years ago with my Mum & Dad. SWMBO, learned with a driving school as did both  my kids.

we don't argue much
we are really carm with each other no matter how much we p**s each other off

we have always listened to each other
she is a fast learner
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« Reply #20 on: 23 February 2009, 09:37:56 »

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When I was a learner, we popped the L plates on my clapped out C reg multicoloured 957cc fiesta.... I got my granddad to sit in the passenger seat, and drove him for miles and miles....

Driving with family can work - but I think it's important to get up to speed with an instructor first...  :y

with the instuctor she did moving breaking gear change and islands and traffic lights and a little bit of reversing

she has got the basics is just slotting it into place
i think what is scareing her is the fact that she has full control as ive not got those dual control things
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #21 on: 23 February 2009, 09:39:39 »

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i think what is scareing her is the fact that she has full control as ive not got those dual control things

I think that should be scaring YOU!!!!  ;)  ;D  ;D
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« Reply #22 on: 23 February 2009, 09:43:03 »

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i think what is scareing her is the fact that she has full control as ive not got those dual control things

I think that should be scaring YOU!!!!  ;)  ;D  ;D

nah not easily scared
the only time i got scared as a passenger was when my mate hit a fox at 80mph and rolled the car

that was scary but luckily we both walked away lauhing and crying in pain
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #23 on: 23 February 2009, 10:03:01 »

The other thing to consider is that swapping between two obviously different cars might not be helping at this stage. A bit of continuity might be what's needed. Seasoned drivers thing nothing of jumping from one car to another but that's because the process of actually driving the car takes so little of our cognitive resources that we have plenty to throw at coping with an unfamiliar gearchange, for example. It's not the same during the early stages of learning.

Another option might be to see if her instructor would be prepared to take her out in her car for a session.

I really think, if she's making progress with an instructor in his car, it's too early to write off the tigra as a bad idea. Maybe park it up for a couple of weeks, let her progress without worrying about switching between two cars, and start afresh when she's progressed a little further. It'll come with time, and once it's the only car she drives she'll get used to it.

Also beware that, as you have said, the instructor is teaching different methods to the ones you employ. The fact is there's no right way to drive a car, but it's important that she's taught consistently between you and the instructor so I would not go against what he's teaching her.

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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #24 on: 23 February 2009, 10:36:44 »

ive got my mother to have the kids for a few hours later on
so i'm going to take ann to that quiet estate with the speed humps and start from srcatch with her

i spoke to her driving instructor (what a git)
he said
"i won't teach her in her own car unless you fit dual controls"
and was really nasty as well
i can see now why ann didnt want to learn to drive with him that much
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #25 on: 23 February 2009, 10:41:22 »

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The other thing to consider is that swapping between two obviously different cars might not be helping at this stage. A bit of continuity might be what's needed. Seasoned drivers thing nothing of jumping from one car to another but that's because the process of actually driving the car takes so little of our cognitive resources that we have plenty to throw at coping with an unfamiliar gearchange, for example. It's not the same during the early stages of learning.

Another option might be to see if her instructor would be prepared to take her out in her car for a session.

I really think, if she's making progress with an instructor in his car, it's too early to write off the tigra as a bad idea. Maybe park it up for a couple of weeks, let her progress without worrying about switching between two cars, and start afresh when she's progressed a little further. It'll come with time, and once it's the only car she drives she'll get used to it.

Also beware that, as you have said, the instructor is teaching different methods to the ones you employ. The fact is there's no right way to drive a car, but it's important that she's taught consistently between you and the instructor so I would not go against what he's teaching her.

Kevin
 

Exactly as Kevin says! I know people who have been driving for years who hate swapping from car to car... Some people, like me, have driven so many cars it doesn't matter :y :y :y

I think the best thing is to park the Tigra up for a while, let her get her confidence back with the instructor, and then get her back i the Tigra later :y :y :y

Finally, remember that the instructor is teaching Ann to pass her test... She'll learn to drive later! Do not try teaching her anything different as it may cause problems.
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #26 on: 23 February 2009, 10:44:23 »

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ive got my mother to have the kids for a few hours later on
so i'm going to take ann to that quiet estate with the speed humps and start from srcatch with her

i spoke to her driving instructor (what a git)
he said
"i won't teach her in her own car unless you fit dual controls"
and was really nasty as well
i can see now why ann didnt want to learn to drive with him that much

TBH I can understand his attitude... Especially as you explained Ann's difficulties to him. I think I'd prefer dual controls too ::) ::) ::)

Perhaps it would be worth trying a different instructor :-? :-?
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #27 on: 23 February 2009, 10:46:29 »

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ive got my mother to have the kids for a few hours later on
so i'm going to take ann to that quiet estate with the speed humps and start from srcatch with her

i spoke to her driving instructor (what a git)
he said
"i won't teach her in her own car unless you fit dual controls"
and was really nasty as well
i can see now why ann didnt want to learn to drive with him that much

TBH I can understand his attitude... Especially as you explained Ann's difficulties to him. I think I'd prefer dual controls too ::) ::) ::)

Perhaps it would be worth trying a different instructor :-? :-?

we been trying to find a female instructor but no joy
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #28 on: 23 February 2009, 10:49:43 »

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ive got my mother to have the kids for a few hours later on
so i'm going to take ann to that quiet estate with the speed humps and start from srcatch with her

i spoke to her driving instructor (what a git)
he said
"i won't teach her in her own car unless you fit dual controls"
and was really nasty as well
i can see now why ann didnt want to learn to drive with him that much

TBH I can understand his attitude... Especially as you explained Ann's difficulties to him. I think I'd prefer dual controls too ::) ::) ::)

Perhaps it would be worth trying a different instructor :-? :-?

we been trying to find a female instructor but no joy

Why would you do that... Women can't drive :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :o :o

In all seriousness... Just try a different instructor for now :y :y :y
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #29 on: 23 February 2009, 10:53:34 »

I have driven lots - then get in a car from a different brand - and all goes wrong.

I cannot handle older ford clutches - on off, some manual boxes if I get a gear - that will do!.

Basically I had driven too many cars with gear levers physically attached to the gear box that if I drive a car with no solid link I have difficulties.

But then I feel if a box is that bad stuff it, I don't car if I blow it up - it is a design fault.

Yes I have killed a couple of Ford pool cars due to crap transmission, please note 2 is behind 1 not behind and to left.

Hate the strong springing as well.

Best quality and easiest gearchange I have ever used was the old Rootes 4 speed box, gear changes were a pleasure.
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