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Debs.

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eBay 'shillers'
« on: 02 March 2009, 14:33:44 »

I`m getting fed up with shill bidders on eBay:
The most recent six 'auctions' I`ve been bidding-on (all low(ish) value items) with just me upto the final minutes of the auction.....then, suddenly a new "mad for the item" bidder appears (more-often with zero/v-low feedback)....I leave the bidding when I reach my idea of a max-bid and then the surprise bidder wins the auction; only for the item to be relisted just a matter of minutes after the end of the auction.
Blatant!............and sadly, getting much more common >:(
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Re: eBay 'shillers'
« Reply #1 on: 02 March 2009, 14:36:34 »

Its happened to me a few times to!

Ow, byt he way Debs, if you know of any old tractors for sale round your neck of the woods then give me a shout!
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« Reply #2 on: 02 March 2009, 14:36:36 »

I hate buying from ebay for this exact reason...  I only stick to buy it nows on ebay...  It's totally unfair     >:(
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Re: eBay 'shillers'
« Reply #3 on: 02 March 2009, 14:36:49 »

yes, drives me nuts too, and is just going to increase the use of 'snipe' tools.

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Re: eBay 'shillers'
« Reply #4 on: 02 March 2009, 14:55:33 »

Yeah I bloody hate this too, happens all the time. Its a joke. I don't think there's any such thing as an eBay bargain these days, sometimes its over the odds even, not even if some numpty spells it wrong!!
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Re: eBay 'shillers'
« Reply #5 on: 02 March 2009, 14:56:42 »

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Ow, byt he way Debs, if you know of any old tractors for sale round your neck of the woods ....

I thought The Boy had the old tractors  :y
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Re: eBay 'shillers'
« Reply #6 on: 02 March 2009, 15:08:01 »

I want a old Fordson Diesel (Major ideally).

Ideal to take round the block at 7.00am on a Sunday morning  ;D ;D
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« Reply #7 on: 02 March 2009, 15:33:58 »

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I want a old Fordson Diesel (Major ideally).

Ideal to take round the block at 7.00am on a Sunday morning  ;D ;D

There are regular machinery/implement sales at Ruthin Farmer`s Auction http://www.ruthinfarmers.co.uk/maine.aspx?pg=diary (next one April 18th.; the catalogue is usually published in advance).....and I`ll also ask my neighbour (whom knows 'everybody' around here) if he knows of any Majors. :y
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Re: eBay 'shillers'
« Reply #8 on: 02 March 2009, 15:41:52 »

the last min bidding on ebay and then a near instant relist is sellers (i will be polite) haveing a mate or mates bid on it to up the final price and if its not wot they want the bang there in at last min. its all so they can gain it happens all the time and i know folk that do it just so they can make a fast buck or two. :y

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« Reply #9 on: 02 March 2009, 15:49:13 »

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I want a old Fordson Diesel (Major ideally).

Ideal to take round the block at 7.00am on a Sunday morning  ;D ;D
No no no no no. I keep telling you. A Thwaites dumper ;)
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Re: eBay 'shillers'
« Reply #10 on: 02 March 2009, 15:51:42 »

I used to use sniping tools for ebay, but haven't found one that works with my ebay cashback yet  :'(.  And seeing as I've saved a nice tidy packet in the last few months, I'd currently rather have the cashback :D

(saying that, I have a theory that I can use both - just need to test on a low value auction at some point)
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Re: eBay 'shillers'
« Reply #11 on: 02 March 2009, 16:08:02 »

From what I understand EB supply thier own snipe tools.  Completely takes away the spirit of the auction as it used to be.
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« Reply #12 on: 02 March 2009, 16:25:33 »

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From what I understand EB supply thier own snipe tools.  Completely takes away the spirit of the auction as it used to be.
The fact that it has to run over a longer period means that it can't run like a 'true' auction.

I liked the use of snipe tools - partly to stop the sellers shill bidding, but also to prevent me going over my intended max bid ;)
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Re: eBay 'shillers'
« Reply #13 on: 02 March 2009, 17:07:00 »

TBH, If people are going to use snipe tools, etc. I don't see whey they don't just make the whole auction process blind. Just lob in your highest bid and see who wins when the auction ends.

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Re: eBay 'shillers'
« Reply #14 on: 02 March 2009, 17:10:39 »

Not sure if it was shill bidders when I bought the engine on eBay or it was genuine folk bidding using a sniper...

http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=320339106526

You can see the pattern of the bids... I put my max bid in a few seconds from the end of the auction (its how I usually work on eBay) so I still won it.

If I want something, I've learnt not to bid until the last few seconds, then just put my maximum bid in and leave it at that.  I don't bother with sniping tools, if I'm not in when the auction ends, I don't win it... Simple :)
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