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[zirk]

Anyone know anything or had Tartarini LPG?, Need to get it in LPG False Start Mode.

Cut a long story short its on a BMW 318 which Ive been using for trips to London (Congestion Charge  ).

I've managed to burn out the Fuel Pump (Petrol) whilst running on LPG with the low petrol light on , why dont LPG kits switch off the petrol pump when running on Gas   .

Any help regarding getting this fired up from cold on LPG would be good.

[Lazydocker]

Firstly... Someone should have warned you about the fuel pump thing... BMW's are particularly prone to this problem

Secondly, what system is it? Mixer/multi-point? Old/New? What's the switch like... Rocker (3 way) or push button?

Normally with a push button type switch you just hold the button when you switch on ignition and crank

[zirk]

Firstly... Someone should have warned you about the fuel pump thing... BMW's are particularly prone to this problem

Secondly, what system is it? Mixer/multi-point? Old/New? What's the switch like... Rocker (3 way) or push button?

Normally with a push button type switch you just hold the button when you switch on ignition and crank

Sorry, should have mentioned that one, its a single point, Cert says it was done in 2007, black box under donnet says TEC 97, so quiet old, but does run sweet.

Small square'ish box with square push button. 4 green round leds + 1 red on top (fuel gauge), 1 round red led for petrol on left bottom, and yellow for Gas on right bottom.?

I can start it by squirting carb cleaner in the Air Intake, just a pain coz you need two people for that.

[Lazydocker]

Right... So the switch is just a single push, which means it's electrical not mechanical?

[zirk]

Right... So the switch is just a single push, which means it's electrical not mechanical?

Electric, its not a latched or toggle, seems like the PCB type, push it once and it switchws.

Been messing with the switch before starting, no joy  

[Lazydocker]

Right... So the switch is just a single push, which means it's electrical not mechanical?

Electric, its not a latched or toggle, seems like the PCB type, push it once and it switches.

Been messing with the switch before starting, no joy  

Just guessing here then... Before turning the key at all hold the button down... Now keep it held down until the car is running. This normally forces a gas start BUT... It will not switch automatically back to petrol!

[zirk]

Right... So the switch is just a single push, which means it's electrical not mechanical?

Electric, its not a latched or toggle, seems like the PCB type, push it once and it switches.

Been messing with the switch before starting, no joy  

Just guessing here then... Before turning the key at all hold the button down... Now keep it held down until the car is running. This normally forces a gas start BUT... It will not switch automatically back to petrol!

Trying it now!

[zirk]

Right... So the switch is just a single push, which means it's electrical not mechanical?

Electric, its not a latched or toggle, seems like the PCB type, push it once and it switches.

Been messing with the switch before starting, no joy  

Just guessing here then... Before turning the key at all hold the button down... Now keep it held down until the car is running. This normally forces a gas start BUT... It will not switch automatically back to petrol!

Trying it now!

Lazydocker, your a star, took a bit of cranking, started, wouldn't do it 2nd or 3rd time though, noticed if you hold the button in for at least 6 seconds on Ing. the flashing amber becomes lit and the red petrol goes out, Forced Start Mode on  

Well done that man, Beers on me when I meet you.  

[Lazydocker]

Right... So the switch is just a single push, which means it's electrical not mechanical?

Electric, its not a latched or toggle, seems like the PCB type, push it once and it switches.

Been messing with the switch before starting, no joy  

Just guessing here then... Before turning the key at all hold the button down... Now keep it held down until the car is running. This normally forces a gas start BUT... It will not switch automatically back to petrol!

Trying it now!

Lazydocker, your a star, took a bit of cranking, started, wouldn't do it 2nd or 3rd time though, noticed if you hold the button in for at least 6 seconds on Ing. the flashing amber becomes lit and the red petrol goes out, Forced Start Mode on  

Well done that man, Beers on me if I ever meet you.  

Was just guessing really TBH... I know it's worked for both my LPG powered cars in the past

Be careful though, you no longer have the backup of petrol when you run out of gas! Obvious I know but just wanted to point it out

[zirk]

Well it was a good guess and it worked, nice one.  

[Omegatoy]

bit late now but had a tartarini kit on one of my old sennys single point
and the emergency start on gas trick was to flick the button 4 times i.e. petrol gas petrol gas then leave it on gas and it would  start on gas then,
warning!!!!
 and when the engine is cold do not rev it as this is when the gas is not fully vapourised and can go BANG and take out the airflow meter but let it warm up gently and will be ok!!

[zirk]

bit late now but had a tartarini kit on one of my old sennys single point
and the emergency start on gas trick was to flick the button 4 times i.e. petrol gas petrol gas then leave it on gas and it would  start on gas then,
warning!!!!
 and when the engine is cold do not rev it as this is when the gas is not fully vapourised and can go BANG and take out the airflow meter but let it warm up gently and will be ok!!

Your warning has been noted Omegatoy, Thanks, Must admit when the petrol was working it would start on petrol and switch to Gas on pull away, or on a very slight increase in revs even when cold.

Must admit Im really suprised how well this runs for a single point, the only other LPG Ive had before was a veccy 2.0 eco factory fit multi point, it was really crap on Gas and seemed to make up the faults as it went along.  

[Lazydocker]

bit late now but had a tartarini kit on one of my old sennys single point
and the emergency start on gas trick was to flick the button 4 times i.e. petrol gas petrol gas then leave it on gas and it would  start on gas then,
warning!!!!
 and when the engine is cold do not rev it as this is when the gas is not fully vapourised and can go BANG and take out the airflow meter but let it warm up gently and will be ok!!

Your warning has been noted Omegatoy, Thanks, Must admit when the petrol was working it would start on petrol and switch to Gas on pull away, or on a very slight increase in revs even when cold.

Must admit Im really suprised how well this runs for a single point, the only other LPG Ive had before was a veccy 2.0 eco factory fit multi point, it was really crap on Gas and seemed to make up the faults as it went along.  

That's because it was a badly designed system... Vauxhall made a bad choice of supplier for their "Factory Fit" LPG option

[Omegatoy]

bit late now but had a tartarini kit on one of my old sennys single point
and the emergency start on gas trick was to flick the button 4 times i.e. petrol gas petrol gas then leave it on gas and it would  start on gas then,
warning!!!!
 and when the engine is cold do not rev it as this is when the gas is not fully vapourised and can go BANG and take out the airflow meter but let it warm up gently and will be ok!!

Your warning has been noted Omegatoy, Thanks, Must admit when the petrol was working it would start on petrol and switch to Gas on pull away, or on a very slight increase in revs even when cold.

Must admit Im really suprised how well this runs for a single point, the only other LPG Ive had before was a veccy 2.0 eco factory fit multi point, it was really crap on Gas and seemed to make up the faults as it went along.  

Tartarini system on my senny did 189000 miles with no faults except one hole in diaphragm in vapouriser and the parts supply was excellent ordered it from an agent in stourbridge and was there in two days had another tartarini system on the GSI which was varvale and was brilliant did loads of trackdays on it andnever a problem at all only thing i ever had to do apart from filters was every so often remove the top of the vaporiser and clean andpolish it as the gas used to build up a gunge inside the vapouriser which although it would run it wsnt happy on ful throttle, revved clean up to 7200rpm and power was down to 198bhp from 204 other than that brilliant!!
strangely enough its still going fine with the guy who bought it off me and has now done over 200k but the headgasket has gone so its parked up!!!

[Martin_1962]

Anyone know the Romano System N emergency start?