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[JamesV6CDX]

They werent vectra gaskets

Well if they were joined in the middle, they sure weren't Omega gaskets!

[Marks DTM Calib]

It is interesting that you should say that. I had a similar conversation with autovaux recently. when I asked for genuine gaskets he said he had some that were made in the same factory as GM ect.. ect.. I then said I had heard that after market gaskets are prone to leakage, and he replied " we used to have a problem with complaints about inferior gaskets but since we have sourced these from Elring who make gaskets for GM we havent had any problems" A set of cam cover gaskets duly arrived in a bag marked 'Elring' but I was a bit disconcerted when I realised that there were 2 pairs of gaskets moulded together and I would have to seperate them with a stanley knife. They looked more like they had come out of a lucky bag than a factory that makes genecticaly modified gaskets.

That's vectra gaskets mate  

Nope, thats Elring non gen gaskets!

The vectra ones have a much wider base.

[JamesV6CDX]

It is interesting that you should say that. I had a similar conversation with autovaux recently. when I asked for genuine gaskets he said he had some that were made in the same factory as GM ect.. ect.. I then said I had heard that after market gaskets are prone to leakage, and he replied " we used to have a problem with complaints about inferior gaskets but since we have sourced these from Elring who make gaskets for GM we havent had any problems" A set of cam cover gaskets duly arrived in a bag marked 'Elring' but I was a bit disconcerted when I realised that there were 2 pairs of gaskets moulded together and I would have to seperate them with a stanley knife. They looked more like they had come out of a lucky bag than a factory that makes genecticaly modified gaskets.

That's vectra gaskets mate  

Nope, thats Elring non gen gaskets!

The vectra ones have a much wider base.

So they don't even fit - you need to cut them?
That's terrible!!!!

[Bent valve]

It is interesting that you should say that. I had a similar conversation with autovaux recently. when I asked for genuine gaskets he said he had some that were made in the same factory as GM ect.. ect.. I then said I had heard that after market gaskets are prone to leakage, and he replied " we used to have a problem with complaints about inferior gaskets but since we have sourced these from Elring who make gaskets for GM we havent had any problems" A set of cam cover gaskets duly arrived in a bag marked 'Elring' but I was a bit disconcerted when I realised that there were 2 pairs of gaskets moulded together and I would have to seperate them with a stanley knife. They looked more like they had come out of a lucky bag than a factory that makes genecticaly modified gaskets.

That's vectra gaskets mate  

Nope, thats Elring non gen gaskets!

The vectra ones have a much wider base.

yes they have a much wider base and they dont have a solid half moon bit, and I know because I have fitted vectra cam covers to my 2.5

[TheBoy]

It is interesting that you should say that. I had a similar conversation with autovaux recently. when I asked for genuine gaskets he said he had some that were made in the same factory as GM ect.. ect.. I then said I had heard that after market gaskets are prone to leakage, and he replied " we used to have a problem with complaints about inferior gaskets but since we have sourced these from Elring who make gaskets for GM we havent had any problems" A set of cam cover gaskets duly arrived in a bag marked 'Elring' but I was a bit disconcerted when I realised that there were 2 pairs of gaskets moulded together and I would have to seperate them with a stanley knife. They looked more like they had come out of a lucky bag than a factory that makes genecticaly modified gaskets.

That's vectra gaskets mate  

Nope, thats Elring non gen gaskets!

The vectra ones have a much wider base.

So they don't even fit - you need to cut them?
That's terrible!!!!

They are elring for Omega, but need modifying to fit.

[tmx]

It is interesting that you should say that. I had a similar conversation with autovaux recently. when I asked for genuine gaskets he said he had some that were made in the same factory as GM ect.. ect.. I then said I had heard that after market gaskets are prone to leakage, and he replied " we used to have a problem with complaints about inferior gaskets but since we have sourced these from Elring who make gaskets for GM we havent had any problems" A set of cam cover gaskets duly arrived in a bag marked 'Elring' but I was a bit disconcerted when I realised that there were 2 pairs of gaskets moulded together and I would have to seperate them with a stanley knife. They looked more like they had come out of a lucky bag than a factory that makes genecticaly modified gaskets.

That's vectra gaskets mate  

Nope, thats Elring non gen gaskets!

The vectra ones have a much wider base.

yes they have a much wider base and they dont have a solid half moon bit, and I know because I have fitted vectra cam covers to my 2.5

big mistake you will eventually blow your rear crank seal thus expelling oil over the clutch and causing you £££ thats what happens to all v6 vectras eventually


so vectra gaskets wont fit a 3.0 then ah well ill ebay my'n

[Bent valve]

It is interesting that you should say that. I had a similar conversation with autovaux recently. when I asked for genuine gaskets he said he had some that were made in the same factory as GM ect.. ect.. I then said I had heard that after market gaskets are prone to leakage, and he replied " we used to have a problem with complaints about inferior gaskets but since we have sourced these from Elring who make gaskets for GM we havent had any problems" A set of cam cover gaskets duly arrived in a bag marked 'Elring' but I was a bit disconcerted when I realised that there were 2 pairs of gaskets moulded together and I would have to seperate them with a stanley knife. They looked more like they had come out of a lucky bag than a factory that makes genecticaly modified gaskets.

That's vectra gaskets mate  

Nope, thats Elring non gen gaskets!

The vectra ones have a much wider base.

yes they have a much wider base and they dont have a solid half moon bit, and I know because I have fitted vectra cam covers to my 2.5

big mistake you will eventually blow your rear crank seal thus expelling oil over the clutch and causing you £££ thats what happens to all v6 vectras eventually


so vectra gaskets wont fit a 3.0 then ah well ill ebay my'n

 No fear of oil being deposited on my clutch, its an auto

As long as breathers are kept clear, theres no problem with vectra covers ,unlike crap plastic omega covers they do provide an efficient oil seal. Ive had mine on for 18,000 miles now with no problems.
 Although I have heard of this argument about blowing seals ect. and
 I have been pondering how to incorperate some sort of pressure relief valve into the oil filler cap which ejects excess crankcase pressure into the plenum instead of blowing gaskets.

 If you have any vectra covers give me first refusal

[TheBoy]

It is interesting that you should say that. I had a similar conversation with autovaux recently. when I asked for genuine gaskets he said he had some that were made in the same factory as GM ect.. ect.. I then said I had heard that after market gaskets are prone to leakage, and he replied " we used to have a problem with complaints about inferior gaskets but since we have sourced these from Elring who make gaskets for GM we havent had any problems" A set of cam cover gaskets duly arrived in a bag marked 'Elring' but I was a bit disconcerted when I realised that there were 2 pairs of gaskets moulded together and I would have to seperate them with a stanley knife. They looked more like they had come out of a lucky bag than a factory that makes genecticaly modified gaskets.

That's vectra gaskets mate  

Nope, thats Elring non gen gaskets!

The vectra ones have a much wider base.

yes they have a much wider base and they dont have a solid half moon bit, and I know because I have fitted vectra cam covers to my 2.5

big mistake you will eventually blow your rear crank seal thus expelling oil over the clutch and causing you £££ thats what happens to all v6 vectras eventually


so vectra gaskets wont fit a 3.0 then ah well ill ebay my'n

 No fear of oil being deposited on my clutch, its an auto

As long as breathers are kept clear, theres no problem with vectra covers ,unlike crap plastic omega covers they do provide an efficient oil seal. Ive had mine on for 18,000 miles now with no problems.
 Although I have heard of this argument about blowing seals ect. and
 I have been pondering how to incorperate some sort of pressure relief valve into the oil filler cap which ejects excess crankcase pressure into the plenum instead of blowing gaskets.

Disagree - the Omega ones are perfectly good enough if not fitted by a mechanic who doesn't know what he's doing.

There is no such thing as 'warped cam covers', that particular myth is one that is spread by mechanics to cover their lack of compitence.

[ians]

My Autovaux Elring ones came with instructions for separation. I assume the bridging bit is just part of the manufacturing process.

and yes they did leak after 6 months or so, and Autovaux did give me my money back to be fair.  But not correct of them to say they have had no problems with Elring.

Anyone who bought them and found they leaked should complain - that way they will get the message.

Autovaux also replaced my slightly too tight aux belt without question,  so I do rate them for customer service.

[Bent valve]

It is interesting that you should say that. I had a similar conversation with autovaux recently. when I asked for genuine gaskets he said he had some that were made in the same factory as GM ect.. ect.. I then said I had heard that after market gaskets are prone to leakage, and he replied " we used to have a problem with complaints about inferior gaskets but since we have sourced these from Elring who make gaskets for GM we havent had any problems" A set of cam cover gaskets duly arrived in a bag marked 'Elring' but I was a bit disconcerted when I realised that there were 2 pairs of gaskets moulded together and I would have to seperate them with a stanley knife. They looked more like they had come out of a lucky bag than a factory that makes genecticaly modified gaskets.

That's vectra gaskets mate  

Nope, thats Elring non gen gaskets!

The vectra ones have a much wider base.

yes they have a much wider base and they dont have a solid half moon bit, and I know because I have fitted vectra cam covers to my 2.5

big mistake you will eventually blow your rear crank seal thus expelling oil over the clutch and causing you £££ thats what happens to all v6 vectras eventually


so vectra gaskets wont fit a 3.0 then ah well ill ebay my'n

 No fear of oil being deposited on my clutch, its an auto

As long as breathers are kept clear, theres no problem with vectra covers ,unlike crap plastic omega covers they do provide an efficient oil seal. Ive had mine on for 18,000 miles now with no problems.
 Although I have heard of this argument about blowing seals ect. and
 I have been pondering how to incorperate some sort of pressure relief valve into the oil filler cap which ejects excess crankcase pressure into the plenum instead of blowing gaskets.

Disagree - the Omega ones are perfectly good enough if not fitted by a mechanic who doesn't know what he's doing.

There is no such thing as 'warped cam covers', that particular myth is one that is spread by mechanics to cover their lack of compitence.

   I am not saying that omega covers are crap because they warp, they dont. they simply have far less surface area of gasket coverage  than vectra covers. as the engine wears and produces more crankcase pressure and the breathers become restricted the gaskets blow.
 Far better in my opinion to fit vectra covers if available and keep the breathers clear.

[HerefordElite]

My Autovaux Elring ones came with instructions for separation. I assume the bridging bit is just part of the manufacturing process.

and yes they did leak after 6 months or so, and Autovaux did give me my money back to be fair.  But not correct of them to say they have had no problems with Elring.

Anyone who bought them and found they leaked should complain - that way they will get the message.

Autovaux also replaced my slightly too tight aux belt without question,  so I do rate them for customer service.

i did rate them but they've let me down by still not returning my £115 deposit for a camlocking kit after 2 weeks :-/

[miggy]

It is interesting that you should say that. I had a similar conversation with autovaux recently. when I asked for genuine gaskets he said he had some that were made in the same factory as GM ect.. ect.. I then said I had heard that after market gaskets are prone to leakage, and he replied " we used to have a problem with complaints about inferior gaskets but since we have sourced these from Elring who make gaskets for GM we havent had any problems" A set of cam cover gaskets duly arrived in a bag marked 'Elring' but I was a bit disconcerted when I realised that there were 2 pairs of gaskets moulded together and I would have to seperate them with a stanley knife. They looked more like they had come out of a lucky bag than a factory that makes genecticaly modified gaskets.

That's vectra gaskets mate  

Nope, thats Elring non gen gaskets!

The vectra ones have a much wider base.

yes they have a much wider base and they dont have a solid half moon bit, and I know because I have fitted vectra cam covers to my 2.5

big mistake you will eventually blow your rear crank seal thus expelling oil over the clutch and causing you £££ thats what happens to all v6 vectras eventually


so vectra gaskets wont fit a 3.0 then ah well ill ebay my'n

 No fear of oil being deposited on my clutch, its an auto

As long as breathers are kept clear, theres no problem with vectra covers ,unlike crap plastic omega covers they do provide an efficient oil seal. Ive had mine on for 18,000 miles now with no problems.
 Although I have heard of this argument about blowing seals ect. and
 I have been pondering how to incorperate some sort of pressure relief valve into the oil filler cap which ejects excess crankcase pressure into the plenum instead of blowing gaskets.

Disagree - the Omega ones are perfectly good enough if not fitted by a mechanic who doesn't know what he's doing.

There is no such thing as 'warped cam covers', that particular myth is one that is spread by mechanics to cover their lack of compitence.

   I am not saying that omega covers are crap because they warp, they dont. they simply have far less surface area of gasket coverage  than vectra covers. as the engine wears and produces more crankcase pressure and the breathers become restricted the gaskets blow.
 Far better in my opinion to fit vectra covers if available and keep the breathers clear.

No. Buy a Merc if you want reliable. if you want something to do and you dont play golf then buy an Omega, it will give you many happy hours of fault finding & rectifying ect..

Do you like miggys......

[Bent valve]

My Autovaux Elring ones came with instructions for separation. I assume the bridging bit is just part of the manufacturing process.

and yes they did leak after 6 months or so, and Autovaux did give me my money back to be fair.  But not correct of them to say they have had no problems with Elring.

Anyone who bought them and found they leaked should complain - that way they will get the message.

Autovaux also replaced my slightly too tight aux belt without question,  so I do rate them for customer service.

 Mine didnt come with instuctions for seperation, however I will be delighted if they start to leak soon because that will mean I've got my engine running again  

[miggy]

My Autovaux Elring ones came with instructions for separation. I assume the bridging bit is just part of the manufacturing process.

and yes they did leak after 6 months or so, and Autovaux did give me my money back to be fair.  But not correct of them to say they have had no problems with Elring.

Anyone who bought them and found they leaked should complain - that way they will get the message.

Autovaux also replaced my slightly too tight aux belt without question,  so I do rate them for customer service.

 Mine didnt come with instuctions for seperation, however I will be delighted if they start to leak soon because that will mean I've got my engine running again  

  Fingers crossed.

[Bent valve]

My Autovaux Elring ones came with instructions for separation. I assume the bridging bit is just part of the manufacturing process.

and yes they did leak after 6 months or so, and Autovaux did give me my money back to be fair.  But not correct of them to say they have had no problems with Elring.

Anyone who bought them and found they leaked should complain - that way they will get the message.

Autovaux also replaced my slightly too tight aux belt without question,  so I do rate them for customer service.

 Mine didnt come with instuctions for seperation, however I will be delighted if they start to leak soon because that will mean I've got my engine running again  

  Fingers crossed.

  Its very difficult to type with crossed fingers But they are!!