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Re: ADSL +2 Question
« Reply #15 on: 16 June 2009, 20:50:05 »

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Ohh and another good vote for the adsl nation microfilters (Beleived to be the best out there)

In days gone by, I would be broadband connected to the internet...
But need to use an old modem on a laptop to dial into work.

The supplied microfilters worked fine, until I use a modem through them, which caused the broadband to drop.

Swapping to an filter, fixed the issue for me.

dunno what they do differently, but the gear is top notch  :y
Bugger, thats reminded me, I have a filtered faceplate sat on my desk at work with your name on it. Forgot it, will post tomorrow night  :-[


Cheers Matey  :y

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Re: ADSL +2 Question
« Reply #16 on: 23 June 2009, 10:13:58 »

Just got round to checking the master socket.  Looks like a standard one, but only the blue wires connected,  in fact only possible to connect two wires.  Now wondering if this is a standard faceplate or not.  I would have thought that there should be 4 connecting points (blue pair for Data, orange pair for Bell)?

Anyway, I have just ordered the master socket from adlsnation, so will see what I get.

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Re: ADSL +2 Question
« Reply #17 on: 23 June 2009, 19:41:35 »

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Just got round to checking the master socket.  Looks like a standard one, but only the blue wires connected,  in fact only possible to connect two wires.  Now wondering if this is a standard faceplate or not.  I would have thought that there should be 4 connecting points (blue pair for Data, orange pair for Bell)?

Anyway, I have just ordered the master socket from adlsnation, so will see what I get.

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Silly arse, I have a couple spare ;)
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Re: ADSL +2 Question
« Reply #18 on: 24 June 2009, 07:06:39 »

One of them made a difference here, well worth replacing  :y

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Re: ADSL +2 Question
« Reply #19 on: 24 June 2009, 08:26:11 »

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Just got round to checking the master socket.  Looks like a standard one, but only the blue wires connected,  in fact only possible to connect two wires.  Now wondering if this is a standard faceplate or not.  I would have thought that there should be 4 connecting points (blue pair for Data, orange pair for Bell)?

Anyway, I have just ordered the master socket from adlsnation, so will see what I get.

cheers
Master socket only has 2 wires connected (normally blue & white/blue).
The "bell" wire only comes in to play for extension sockets, and this is taken from terminal 3 of the master socket and connected to terminal 3 in all slave (extension) sockets.
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Re: ADSL +2 Question
« Reply #20 on: 24 June 2009, 13:44:00 »

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Just got round to checking the master socket.  Looks like a standard one, but only the blue wires connected,  in fact only possible to connect two wires.  Now wondering if this is a standard faceplate or not.  I would have thought that there should be 4 connecting points (blue pair for Data, orange pair for Bell)?

Anyway, I have just ordered the master socket from adlsnation, so will see what I get.

cheers
Silly arse, I have a couple spare ;)

Bugger!  Still, if it makes a difference, then worth £12.  The line speed is already quicker, gone from .5 to 1.7 and that was tested with other use on the line.

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Re: ADSL +2 Question
« Reply #21 on: 24 June 2009, 19:35:16 »

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Just got round to checking the master socket.  Looks like a standard one, but only the blue wires connected,  in fact only possible to connect two wires.  Now wondering if this is a standard faceplate or not.  I would have thought that there should be 4 connecting points (blue pair for Data, orange pair for Bell)?

Anyway, I have just ordered the master socket from adlsnation, so will see what I get.

cheers
Master socket only has 2 wires connected (normally blue & white/blue).
The "bell" wire only comes in to play for extension sockets, and this is taken from terminal 3 of the master socket and connected to terminal 3 in all slave (extension) sockets.
And if your phones are new enough not to need it, disconnecting the ringing wire (3, Orange/Wh), can get you a better SNR, ultimately (after a few days) better sync rate or better stability.
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Re: ADSL +2 Question
« Reply #22 on: 24 June 2009, 19:35:48 »

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Just got round to checking the master socket.  Looks like a standard one, but only the blue wires connected,  in fact only possible to connect two wires.  Now wondering if this is a standard faceplate or not.  I would have thought that there should be 4 connecting points (blue pair for Data, orange pair for Bell)?

Anyway, I have just ordered the master socket from adlsnation, so will see what I get.

cheers
Silly arse, I have a couple spare ;)

Bugger!  Still, if it makes a difference, then worth £12.  The line speed is already quicker, gone from .5 to 1.7 and that was tested with other use on the line.

result!
SUrprised you get Jack all the way out there - you off Bradwell Abbey or Newport Pag?
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Re: ADSL +2 Question
« Reply #23 on: 24 June 2009, 19:41:44 »

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Just got round to checking the master socket.  Looks like a standard one, but only the blue wires connected,  in fact only possible to connect two wires.  Now wondering if this is a standard faceplate or not.  I would have thought that there should be 4 connecting points (blue pair for Data, orange pair for Bell)?

Anyway, I have just ordered the master socket from adlsnation, so will see what I get.

cheers
Silly arse, I have a couple spare ;)

Bugger!  Still, if it makes a difference, then worth £12.  The line speed is already quicker, gone from .5 to 1.7 and that was tested with other use on the line.

result!
SUrprised you get Jack all the way out there - you off Bradwell Abbey or Newport Pag?
Bradwell Abbey,  5.885k, away from it!  Originally couldn't get anything, then went on the extended reach trial and have had 512 since.  Just tested the new adsl +2 again 1.9mb!

Still got to fit the new filtered NTE, but a bit perplexed with the setup.  2 blue wires connected to the back plate, orange wires disconnected (but from where I have no idea!), and no extensions off the master, but there are other extensions around the house.

No idea where these are branched from, I really want a new line into the master and run everything from there, but need to locate the spur first.
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Re: ADSL +2 Question
« Reply #24 on: 24 June 2009, 20:05:07 »

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Just got round to checking the master socket.  Looks like a standard one, but only the blue wires connected,  in fact only possible to connect two wires.  Now wondering if this is a standard faceplate or not.  I would have thought that there should be 4 connecting points (blue pair for Data, orange pair for Bell)?

Anyway, I have just ordered the master socket from adlsnation, so will see what I get.

cheers
Silly arse, I have a couple spare ;)

Bugger!  Still, if it makes a difference, then worth £12.  The line speed is already quicker, gone from .5 to 1.7 and that was tested with other use on the line.

result!
SUrprised you get Jack all the way out there - you off Bradwell Abbey or Newport Pag?
Bradwell Abbey,  5.885k, away from it!  Originally couldn't get anything, then went on the extended reach trial and have had 512 since.  Just tested the new adsl +2 again 1.9mb!

Still got to fit the new filtered NTE, but a bit perplexed with the setup.  2 blue wires connected to the back plate, orange wires disconnected (but from where I have no idea!), and no extensions off the master, but there are other extensions around the house.

No idea where these are branched from, I really want a new line into the master and run everything from there, but need to locate the spur first.
Yeah, thought it would be Bradwell Abbey.

On the upside, as BT do a lot of their testing in MK, its very well optimised in that area :y

From memory, that era of housing in MK, line comes in bin cupboard, and is crimped straight through to internal wiring, often to a plate in hallway
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« Reply #25 on: 25 June 2009, 09:30:15 »

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Just got round to checking the master socket.  Looks like a standard one, but only the blue wires connected,  in fact only possible to connect two wires.  Now wondering if this is a standard faceplate or not.  I would have thought that there should be 4 connecting points (blue pair for Data, orange pair for Bell)?

Anyway, I have just ordered the master socket from adlsnation, so will see what I get.

cheers
Silly arse, I have a couple spare ;)

Bugger!  Still, if it makes a difference, then worth £12.  The line speed is already quicker, gone from .5 to 1.7 and that was tested with other use on the line.

result!
SUrprised you get Jack all the way out there - you off Bradwell Abbey or Newport Pag?
Bradwell Abbey,  5.885k, away from it!  Originally couldn't get anything, then went on the extended reach trial and have had 512 since.  Just tested the new adsl +2 again 1.9mb!

Still got to fit the new filtered NTE, but a bit perplexed with the setup.  2 blue wires connected to the back plate, orange wires disconnected (but from where I have no idea!), and no extensions off the master, but there are other extensions around the house.

No idea where these are branched from, I really want a new line into the master and run everything from there, but need to locate the spur first.
Yeah, thought it would be Bradwell Abbey.

On the upside, as BT do a lot of their testing in MK, its very well optimised in that area :y

From memory, that era of housing in MK, line comes in bin cupboard, and is crimped straight through to internal wiring, often to a plate in hallway

Sadly, no bin cupboard!  BT have looked for the entry point before without success,  when I got ISDN installed years back, they searched for ages, then decided it was easier to dig up the drive and run another cable :o  Shame they didn't replace the normal pstn one at the same time. :(
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« Reply #26 on: 25 June 2009, 21:18:41 »

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Just got round to checking the master socket.  Looks like a standard one, but only the blue wires connected,  in fact only possible to connect two wires.  Now wondering if this is a standard faceplate or not.  I would have thought that there should be 4 connecting points (blue pair for Data, orange pair for Bell)?

Anyway, I have just ordered the master socket from adlsnation, so will see what I get.

cheers
Silly arse, I have a couple spare ;)

Bugger!  Still, if it makes a difference, then worth £12.  The line speed is already quicker, gone from .5 to 1.7 and that was tested with other use on the line.

result!
SUrprised you get Jack all the way out there - you off Bradwell Abbey or Newport Pag?
Bradwell Abbey,  5.885k, away from it!  Originally couldn't get anything, then went on the extended reach trial and have had 512 since.  Just tested the new adsl +2 again 1.9mb!

Still got to fit the new filtered NTE, but a bit perplexed with the setup.  2 blue wires connected to the back plate, orange wires disconnected (but from where I have no idea!), and no extensions off the master, but there are other extensions around the house.

No idea where these are branched from, I really want a new line into the master and run everything from there, but need to locate the spur first.
Yeah, thought it would be Bradwell Abbey.

On the upside, as BT do a lot of their testing in MK, its very well optimised in that area :y

From memory, that era of housing in MK, line comes in bin cupboard, and is crimped straight through to internal wiring, often to a plate in hallway

Sadly, no bin cupboard!  BT have looked for the entry point before without success,  when I got ISDN installed years back, they searched for ages, then decided it was easier to dig up the drive and run another cable :o  Shame they didn't replace the normal pstn one at the same time. :(
hmmm, another builder's bodge then I guess  :'(
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« Reply #27 on: 25 June 2009, 21:35:11 »

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Just got round to checking the master socket.  Looks like a standard one, but only the blue wires connected,  in fact only possible to connect two wires.  Now wondering if this is a standard faceplate or not.  I would have thought that there should be 4 connecting points (blue pair for Data, orange pair for Bell)?

Anyway, I have just ordered the master socket from adlsnation, so will see what I get.

cheers
Master socket only has 2 wires connected (normally blue & white/blue).
The "bell" wire only comes in to play for extension sockets, and this is taken from terminal 3 of the master socket and connected to terminal 3 in all slave (extension) sockets.
And if your phones are new enough not to need it, disconnecting the ringing wire (3, Orange/Wh), can get you a better SNR, ultimately (after a few days) better sync rate or better stability.
Absolutely spot on  :y

You can also replace that slave socket with a master, and that will also negate the need for the bell wire if the phone isn't new enough.
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« Reply #28 on: 25 June 2009, 21:37:10 »

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Just got round to checking the master socket.  Looks like a standard one, but only the blue wires connected,  in fact only possible to connect two wires.  Now wondering if this is a standard faceplate or not.  I would have thought that there should be 4 connecting points (blue pair for Data, orange pair for Bell)?

Anyway, I have just ordered the master socket from adlsnation, so will see what I get.

cheers
Master socket only has 2 wires connected (normally blue & white/blue).
The "bell" wire only comes in to play for extension sockets, and this is taken from terminal 3 of the master socket and connected to terminal 3 in all slave (extension) sockets.
And if your phones are new enough not to need it, disconnecting the ringing wire (3, Orange/Wh), can get you a better SNR, ultimately (after a few days) better sync rate or better stability.
Absolutely spot on  :y

You can also replace that slave socket with a master, and that will also negate the need for the bell wire if the phone isn't new enough.
That can cause SNR issues as well, so wouldn't do that, change the phone instead.  Also, if the phone is that old, it is likely to be pulse dialling only, and that will piss everyone in the house off when you dial ;)
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