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[Debs.]

Conspiracy theorists; don`t you just love`em?......their intricately deluded constructed versions are always so much more complex and impractical than any (so-much simpler) reality.


I wonder if in Jesus` time if there was a conspiracy-theorist saying that the Crucifixion was all a Jewish plot to discredit the Romans.

'The people`s popular front': pah!...`splitters!!!!!

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Conspiracy theorists; don`t you just love`em?......their intricately deluded constructed versions are always so much more complex and impractical than any (so-much simpler) reality.


I wonder if in Jesus` time if there was a conspiracy-theorist saying that the Crucifixion was all a Jewish plot to discredit the Romans.

'The people`s popular front': pah!...`splitters!!!!!

I am sure that did and has continued to happen, especially as Pontius Pilate was very unhappy about crucifying Jesus and going along with the demands of the Jews .

With the moon landing, in addition to what I have already stated, it must not be forgotten Debs that Apollo 11 was followed by the landings of Apollo's 12 - 17 (ex 13 of course!), so are the conspiracists really saying that all these could be a delusion, set in some warehouse, when the Russians and the World are watching, with specimens being brought back with fully filmed module landings in the oceans??

Sorry, but the facts do not back them at all, and yes Debs as long as there is human beings and events transpiring, then conspiracies will be concocted!!

[Turk]

To be honest, I'm very much "on the fence" with this one. I hope that what I saw 40 years ago really was the first man on the moon, but I'll always listen to and think over other versions.
Too many folk just accept what they are shown or told is true.
I never questioned it until certain events in recent years made me realise there is no limit to what certain people will do to reach their goals, but let's get one thing clear, when people say "The Americans" lied about this or that, it's not American people, it's the American Government. 
                                                                

[Lizzie_Zoom]

To be honest, I'm very much "on the fence" with this one. I hope that what I saw 40 years ago really was the first man on the moon, but I'll always listen to and think over other versions.
Too many folk just accept what they are shown or told is true.
I never questioned it until certain events in recent years made me realise there is no limit to what certain people will do to reach their goals, but let's get one thing clear, when people say "The Americans" lied about this or that, it's not American people, it's the American Government. 
                                                                

............along with the Russians, International, including top British, scientists, and yes the American people, all of whom would have to  have been kept quiet over any conspiracy??

No sorry, as I stated earlier all that is not plausable for the reasons previously given, the Russian equation in particular!!

[miked]

The guidance computer, about 36kbytes of program 'stored' in ferrite core memory knitted by middle aged women!

http://kn.theiet.org/magazine/issues/0912/smart-apollo-0912.cfm

Fact or fiction :-
http://kn.theiet.org/magazine/issues/0912/fake-right-0912.cfm

[Lizzie_Zoom]

The guidance computer, about 36kbytes of program 'stored' in ferrite core memory knitted by middle aged women!

http://kn.theiet.org/magazine/issues/0912/smart-apollo-0912.cfm

Fact or fiction :-
http://kn.theiet.org/magazine/issues/0912/fake-right-0912.cfm

Brilliant sound factual material, and added to what scientists have confirmed, like today a University Of Kent retired professor of space science who was engaged by NASA in the Apollo programme, should clearly satisfy the doubters.

The said professor worked with the moon samples and stated clearly that they could only have come from the moon, with its lack of atmosphere; they could never have been created on Earth

And, again remember the Russian factor!

[miked]

Its the Russian factor that does it for me.

[Turk]

To be honest, I'm very much "on the fence" with this one. I hope that what I saw 40 years ago really was the first man on the moon, but I'll always listen to and think over other versions.
Too many folk just accept what they are shown or told is true.
I never questioned it until certain events in recent years made me realise there is no limit to what certain people will do to reach their goals, but let's get one thing clear, when people say "The Americans" lied about this or that, it's not American people, it's the American Government. 
                                                                

............along with the Russians, International, including top British, scientists, and yes the American people, all of whom would have to  have been kept quiet over any conspiracy??

No sorry, as I stated earlier all that is not plausable for the reasons previously given, the Russian equation in particular!!

Without being specific and opening up another can of worms, the conspiracie theories that made me realise the "no limits" factor are far more recent than man on the moon.
Anyhoo, it's 30 mins to go until it all happened, 40 years ago...apparently   

[Entwood]

Do the conspiracy theorists really expect us to believe that the Americans could do this AND then keep it secret for 40 years ??

Far too many people/agencies involved IMHO

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Do the conspiracy theorists really expect us to believe that the Americans could do this AND then keep it secret for 40 years ??

Far too many people/agencies involved IMHO

Exactly, tens of thousands minimum, PLUS the Russians!!

Come on all, there was NO conspiracy!!

[Turk]

Do the conspiracy theorists really expect us to believe that the Americans could do this AND then keep it secret for 40 years ??

Far too many people/agencies involved IMHO

Exactly, tens of thousands minimum, PLUS the Russians!!
Come on all, there was NO conspiracy!!

...or just 3 astronauts and a handfull of the "powers that be". Mission Control did not have any real "control". All they could do is watch, just like the rest of us.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Do the conspiracy theorists really expect us to believe that the Americans could do this AND then keep it secret for 40 years ??

Far too many people/agencies involved IMHO

Exactly, tens of thousands minimum, PLUS the Russians!!
Come on all, there was NO conspiracy!!

...or just 3 astronauts and a handfull of the "powers that be". Mission Control did not have any real "control". All they could do is watch, just like the rest of us.

3?!  How about the astronauts of Apollo 12 - 17 (ex 13); NASA personnel; all the external contractors; the (international) scientists, the media, the United States Navy personnel who plucked each Apollo crew from the Ocean, including the near catastrophic Apollo 13 crew, who went via a warehouse (??); etc, etc, oh, and of course the watching unfriendly Russians?

You really think they could all be fooled for 40 years and everyone kept quiet??

 

[Omega man 2]

And what about those laser reflector thingys they left behind

[Turk]

Do the conspiracy theorists really expect us to believe that the Americans could do this AND then keep it secret for 40 years ??

Far too many people/agencies involved IMHO

Exactly, tens of thousands minimum, PLUS the Russians!!
Come on all, there was NO conspiracy!!

...or just 3 astronauts and a handfull of the "powers that be". Mission Control did not have any real "control". All they could do is watch, just like the rest of us.

3?!  How about the astronauts of Apollo 12 - 17 (ex 13); NASA personnel; all the external contractors; the (international) scientists, the media, the United States Navy personnel who plucked each Apollo crew from the Ocean, including the near catastrophic Apollo 13 crew, who went via a warehouse (??); etc, etc, oh, and of course the watching unfriendly Russians?

You really think they could all be fooled for 40 years and everyone kept quiet??

 

Just refering to this "landing".
3 astronauts plus a handfull of others.  Everyone else saw it from earth...the Russians included.
They definately went to the moon, they had to with the Russians watching, but the "landing"...hmm  :-/   
Didn't it take place conveniently on the "other side" of the moon ? 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Do the conspiracy theorists really expect us to believe that the Americans could do this AND then keep it secret for 40 years ??

Far too many people/agencies involved IMHO

Exactly, tens of thousands minimum, PLUS the Russians!!
Come on all, there was NO conspiracy!!

...or just 3 astronauts and a handfull of the "powers that be". Mission Control did not have any real "control". All they could do is watch, just like the rest of us.

3?!  How about the astronauts of Apollo 12 - 17 (ex 13); NASA personnel; all the external contractors; the (international) scientists, the media, the United States Navy personnel who plucked each Apollo crew from the Ocean, including the near catastrophic Apollo 13 crew, who went via a warehouse (??); etc, etc, oh, and of course the watching unfriendly Russians?

You really think they could all be fooled for 40 years and everyone kept quiet??

 

Just refering to this "landing".
3 astronauts plus a handfull of others.  Everyone else saw it from earth...the Russians included.
They definately went to the moon, they had to with the Russians watching, but the "landing"...hmm  :-/   
Didn't it take place conveniently on the "other side" of the moon ? 

No Turk Apollo 11 placed its astronauts in the highlands of Descartes in the middle south eastern section of the Earth facing side of the moon.  Indeed the following landings by Apollo's 12 to 17, except 13, all landed on the Earth facing side of the Moon, hence the photo's from the Moons surface showing our half 'blue globe'