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[p j morgan]

you should do what i do open the tailget let the wolf in the car start the engine ,no chance of anybody nicking my mig got the best alarm ever 10 stone of german shepard .woof woof

[Brick Tamland]

you should do what i do open the tailget let the wolf in the car start the engine ,no chance of anybody nicking my mig got the best alarm ever 10 stone of german shepard .woof woof

As my dad would say, can he put out fires?

[Dishevelled Den]

Construction and Use Regulations 98 & 107 seems to cover this;


http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070304

Item 123



....and in its practical application;


http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23429827-driver-fined-for-leaving-engine-running-as-car-defrosted-outside-his-home.do

[davethediver]

Now I know this was discussed a few days ago, mostly hearsay iirc.

Yesterday was  very frosty morning, we live in a small village, house is on the primary road through the village.
SWMBO started up the Mig, parked on the road and came back into the house as the car warmed.  I did the same in the Citroen, parked on the drive, nice warm car to get into........
My sister in law who lives, in the far corner of the estate opposite our house, which is in effect a large culdesac, did the same with her 54 reg Nissan 4X4 popping back into the house and upstairs to get something.  She heard some revving, looked out of the window only to see her car being driven off.

Worst thing is, as some members warned, the initial reaction of the Insurance Company is that; as the keys were in it, regardless of engine running, it is not covered........

Brother reckons it is 'scroats' on the off chance, walking the village, knowing that a lot of people will be doing this at school run time. He is a little bit peed off, to say the least........

Thats some thing that happens alot around here

  Whys that then :question

[jonnycool]

you should do what i do open the tailget let the wolf in the car start the engine ,no chance of anybody nicking my mig got the best alarm ever 10 stone of german shepard .woof woof

Speaking of which, a large German shepard kept relieving itself on my doorstep, then to add insult to injury, his dog did the same! 

[Vamps]

you should do what i do open the tailget let the wolf in the car start the engine ,no chance of anybody nicking my mig got the best alarm ever 10 stone of german shepard .woof woof

Speaking of which, a large German shepard kept relieving itself on my doorstep, then to add insult to injury, his dog did the same! 

  even if you are hijacking my post...

[Tony H]

Now I know this was discussed a few days ago, mostly hearsay iirc.

Yesterday was  very frosty morning, we live in a small village, house is on the primary road through the village.
SWMBO started up the Mig, parked on the road and came back into the house as the car warmed.  I did the same in the Citroen, parked on the drive, nice warm car to get into........
My sister in law who lives, in the far corner of the estate opposite our house, which is in effect a large culdesac, did the same with her 54 reg Nissan 4X4 popping back into the house and upstairs to get something.  She heard some revving, looked out of the window only to see her car being driven off.

Worst thing is, as some members warned, the initial reaction of the Insurance Company is that; as the keys were in it, regardless of engine running, it is not covered........

Brother reckons it is 'scroats' on the off chance, walking the village, knowing that a lot of people will be doing this at school run time. He is a little bit peed off, to say the least........

Thats some thing that happens alot around here

 
:question

Cos their's a load of numptys that live round here that have their heads up their ars@s when it comes to common sence regarding security !!

[feeutfo]

On a modern car, could you lock the car with another key, leaving the first on in warming the engine? just a thought...

Exactly what i do. Post the spare key through letter box and away. They can smash the window though.

[Vamps]

On a modern car, could you lock the car with another key, leaving the first on in warming the engine? just a thought...

Exactly what i do. Post the spare key through letter box and away. They can smash the window though.

But at least they have broken in, just thinking insurance wise, cos they would know no difference..

[Amigo]

What a bunch of Wusses & devoid of common sense!
    I'm sorry, i really am but but you risk your cars getting stolen because you don't want to get cold??

   

[feeutfo]

What a bunch of Wusses & devoid of common sense!
    I'm sorry, i really am but but you risk your cars getting stolen because you don't want to get cold??

   

Thought through as usuall Guy!
  

Its break all to do with getting cold, its to do with not having time to defrost the car before you have to leave or be late for work.

If i didnt want to get cold i would not be outside at 5.15am in me bloody dressing gown with the spare key.

Alarm goes off 5.15am 10mins to get dressed and ready, 5.25 leave house, "IF" the car is not frosted up. If frosty start the car first, leave on time......

 If its still there of course.

[KillerWatt]

Was always advised never to do this as insurers have no obligation to pay out....

An old neighbour used to have one of these and swore by it as it got the car warmed up without starting.  IIRC he had it wired to a timer with a relay to the heater fan to heat the cabin/windows up too:

http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproduct.asp?sg=&pgCode=&sgName=&pgName=&agCode=&agName=&pCode=080.254

If it saved the 10mpg consumption of the first few miles every day, it would soon pay for itself-anyone used one??

£245.00 excluding, hells bells
It's given me an idea to make my own though

A turbo timer is a quarter of that price.

[Kevin Wood]

Was always advised never to do this as insurers have no obligation to pay out....

An old neighbour used to have one of these and swore by it as it got the car warmed up without starting.  IIRC he had it wired to a timer with a relay to the heater fan to heat the cabin/windows up too:

http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproduct.asp?sg=&pgCode=&sgName=&pgName=&agCode=&agName=&pCode=080.254

If it saved the 10mpg consumption of the first few miles every day, it would soon pay for itself-anyone used one??

£245.00 excluding, hells bells
It's given me an idea to make my own though

I've wondered if one of those would be a good idea myself, especially on LPG. Would save using petrol at all, pretty much.

Not at that price, obviously, but it's only a kettle element in a box and a small pump.

I would be bound to drive off with the bu66er still plugged in, or forget to connect it up in the evening, though.

Kevin

[Entwood]

Was always advised never to do this as insurers have no obligation to pay out....

An old neighbour used to have one of these and swore by it as it got the car warmed up without starting.  IIRC he had it wired to a timer with a relay to the heater fan to heat the cabin/windows up too:

http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproduct.asp?sg=&pgCode=&sgName=&pgName=&agCode=&agName=&pCode=080.254

If it saved the 10mpg consumption of the first few miles every day, it would soon pay for itself-anyone used one??

£245.00 excluding, hells bells
It's given me an idea to make my own though

I've wondered if one of those would be a good idea myself, especially on LPG. Would save using petrol at all, pretty much.

Not at that price, obviously, but it's only a kettle element in a box and a small pump.

I would be bound to drive off with the bu66er still plugged in, or forget to connect it up in the evening, though.

Kevin

[Start Thread drift] .........   

Did that in Northern Canada on a detachment once .. no bugger told me all the pool cars were plugged in to sump heaters (average temp at night - 8 F  - yup -8 F !!) .... now you would have thought someone would have designed the connection to break in that eventuality .....  but no ... I had 20 feet of cable ripped off the fence before I realised ... my only excuse is I was looking out of the back window as I was reversing .. so didn't see the carnage at the front !!!

Sump heaters are good .. but need a decent memory in the "human interface" ..... 

[end thread drift]

[feeutfo]

Was always advised never to do this as insurers have no obligation to pay out....

An old neighbour used to have one of these and swore by it as it got the car warmed up without starting.  IIRC he had it wired to a timer with a relay to the heater fan to heat the cabin/windows up too:

http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproduct.asp?sg=&pgCode=&sgName=&pgName=&agCode=&agName=&pCode=080.254

If it saved the 10mpg consumption of the first few miles every day, it would soon pay for itself-anyone used one??

£245.00 excluding, hells bells
It's given me an idea to make my own though

I've wondered if one of those would be a good idea myself, especially on LPG. Would save using petrol at all, pretty much.

Not at that price, obviously, but it's only a kettle element in a box and a small pump.

I would be bound to drive off with the bu66er still plugged in, or forget to connect it up in the evening, though.

Kevin

[Start Thread drift] .........   

Did that in Northern Canada on a detachment once .. no bugger told me all the pool cars were plugged in to sump heaters (average temp at night - 8 F  - yup -8 F !!) .... now you would have thought someone would have designed the connection to break in that eventuality .....  but no ... I had 20 feet of cable ripped off the fence before I realised ... my only excuse is I was looking out of the back window as I was reversing .. so didn't see the carnage at the front !!!

Sump heaters are good .. but need a decent memory in the "human interface" ..... 

[end thread drift]

Tried towing my garage up the road with a battery charger lead once. Not at my best in the mornings.