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Serious question.
« on: 01 January 2010, 21:04:56 »

In the light of Richie's thread and the recent execution of a British passport carrying person in China, I would be interested to know your views on capital punishment.
Our government, red or blue, always claim to represent the voting public.  With regards to labour, this claim was obviously rubbished by the recent EU treaty. Almost everyone I speak to would support the death penalty if there was irrefutable evidence of child killing or murder with a sexual motive.
Since I started the thread, I feel I must tell you that I would fully support the death penalty for most murders, whether premeditated, or done in a drunken rage as in Richie's thread.
Perhaps it might not be so bad if murderers were encarcerated for their natural lives, or even if prison was a really harsh place to be. But I am truly worried that we are allowing people to literally get away with murder, and it can only get worse.
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Re: Serious question.
« Reply #1 on: 01 January 2010, 21:09:36 »

There are alot of punishments that SHOULD BE BROUGHT BACK, the death penalty & hard labour to mention a few. Public stocks should be another :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
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Re: Serious question.
« Reply #2 on: 01 January 2010, 21:15:56 »

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In the light of Richie's thread and the recent execution of a British passport carrying person in China, I would be interested to know your views on capital punishment.
Our government, red or blue, always claim to represent the voting public.  With regards to labour, this claim was obviously rubbished by the recent EU treaty. Almost everyone I speak to would support the death penalty if there was irrefutable evidence of child killing or murder with a sexual motive.
Since I started the thread, I feel I must tell you that I would fully support the death penalty for most murders, whether premeditated, or done in a drunken rage as in Richie's thread.
Perhaps it might not be so bad if murderers were encarcerated for their natural lives, or even if prison was a really harsh place to be. But I am truly worried that we are allowing people to literally get away with murder, and it can only get worse.
Murder is murder. You cannot differentiate
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Re: Serious question.
« Reply #3 on: 01 January 2010, 21:19:14 »

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In the light of Richie's thread and the recent execution of a British passport carrying person in China, I would be interested to know your views on capital punishment.
Our government, red or blue, always claim to represent the voting public.  With regards to labour, this claim was obviously rubbished by the recent EU treaty. Almost everyone I speak to would support the death penalty if there was irrefutable evidence of child killing or murder with a sexual motive.
Since I started the thread, I feel I must tell you that I would fully support the death penalty for most murders, whether premeditated, or done in a drunken rage as in Richie's thread.
Perhaps it might not be so bad if murderers were encarcerated for their natural lives, or even if prison was a really harsh place to be. But I am truly worried that we are allowing people to literally get away with murder, and it can only get worse.
Murder is murder. You cannot differentiate


You are, of course, correct.
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Re: Serious question.
« Reply #4 on: 01 January 2010, 21:19:33 »

Bring Back Hanging. The testing etc is far better now than in the times of Pierpoint
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« Reply #5 on: 01 January 2010, 21:21:49 »

Totally agree with the death penalty for murder,and for theft they should cut a finger off,like i beleive they do in some arab countries,that should make them think twice,unless you are totally brainless. ::)
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« Reply #6 on: 01 January 2010, 21:21:57 »

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Bring Back Hanging. The testing etc is far better now than in the times of the French Revolution


Dont know if I'd go for hanging, I wouldn't want a public spectacle, revenge kind of thing. Just matter-of-fact, cold-blooded injection.
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« Reply #7 on: 01 January 2010, 21:26:50 »

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Dont know if I'd go for hanging, I wouldn't want a public spectacle, revenge kind of thing. Just matter-of-fact, cold-blooded injection.

Don't know being honest, think the Public Spectacle as you say,  would make the Murderer feel frightened, embarrassed etc...
I got mixed up with the Guiltotine in my first reply :-[ but still that would be a good tool  :y 
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« Reply #8 on: 01 January 2010, 21:30:24 »

I have studied the Death Penalty since I was in school,  and I can tell you a lot, and I mean a lot. It does not solve anything and it is just THE STATES REVENGE.
Ask yourselves this question, how many people do you think America executed l;ast year?
Also,. the papers say that guy in China was executed by lethal injection, I can guarantee that he was actually executed by a 9mm pistol, hence the reason they would not let his body be repatriated
Any questions you want on this subject them forward them to me,
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Re: Serious question.
« Reply #9 on: 01 January 2010, 21:31:55 »

Ministers are ment to represent the public opinion BUT the death penalty is a vote of consionce???
If you asked a plumber to put a radiator under a window and he said I can't do that as its against my opinion, you would sack him!!! They/he are there to represent you, not have their OWN opinion. They are just scared of the minority, the magority don't speak up. The minority always do, minority rules I'm afraid!!! :'(
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« Reply #10 on: 01 January 2010, 21:32:27 »

I say the electric chair,and they ought to let the families of those murdered switch it on. ;)
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Re: Serious question.
« Reply #11 on: 01 January 2010, 21:32:51 »

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In the light of Richie's thread and the recent execution of a British passport carrying person in China, I would be interested to know your views on capital punishment.
Our government, red or blue, always claim to represent the voting public.  With regards to labour, this claim was obviously rubbished by the recent EU treaty. Almost everyone I speak to would support the death penalty if there was irrefutable evidence of child killing or murder with a sexual motive.
Since I started the thread, I feel I must tell you that I would fully support the death penalty for most murders, whether premeditated, or done in a drunken rage as in Richie's thread.
Perhaps it might not be so bad if murderers were encarcerated for their natural lives, or even if prison was a really harsh place to be. But I am truly worried that we are allowing people to literally get away with murder, and it can only get worse.
Murder is murder. You cannot differentiate

I concur that the taking of another Human life is not the usual 'done thing'.....

I also concur that the British Justice System leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to some decisions that are made, however....

What about (and probably another debate altogether) Euthanasia?  Ending someones life when they want it ended and are unable to continue in a happy and natural way.

If Elizabeth Fritzle was able to kill Josef.

Just two examples.

Murder is not simply Murder.
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Re: Serious question.
« Reply #12 on: 01 January 2010, 21:35:29 »

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« Reply #13 on: 01 January 2010, 21:36:30 »

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I have studied the Death Penalty since I was in school,  and I can tell you a lot, and I mean a lot. It does not solve anything and it is just THE STATES REVENGE.
Ask yourselves this question, how many people do you think America executed l;ast year?
Also,. the papers say that guy in China was executed by lethal injection, I can guarantee that he was actually executed by a 9mm pistol, hence the reason they would not let his body be repatriated
Any questions you want on this subject them forward them to me,


But would not the actual fear of the Death Penalty whichever form put the Criminal off committing  the offense in the first place?
If so surely that would be worth it?
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« Reply #14 on: 01 January 2010, 21:39:10 »

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I have studied the Death Penalty since I was in school,  and I can tell you a lot, and I mean a lot. It does not solve anything and it is just THE STATES REVENGE.
Ask yourselves this question, how many people do you think America executed l;ast year?
Also,. the papers say that guy in China was executed by lethal injection, I can guarantee that he was actually executed by a 9mm pistol, hence the reason they would not let his body be repatriated
Any questions you want on this subject them forward them to me,


But would not the actual fear of the Death Penalty whichever form put the Criminal off committing  the offense in the first place?
If so surely that would be worth it?
Do you think that someone actually stops to think, wait, I may get hanged for this, I think not,
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