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[robbo299]

Just been reading the news page of yahoo and i see there is an article there which says that some extremist muslim group are planning to hold a march through Wooton Bassett. This, it is said, is "not in memory of the occupying and merciless British millitary" but to honour muslims "murdered in the name of Democracy and freedom" and will be "peaceful". Surley this cannot go ahead as it is a recipe for disaster. The good people of this small town (Wooton Bassett) turn out in thier hundreds if not thousands everytime a serviceman/woman make thier final journey home as a matter of respect for the sacrifice made. I have nothing but respect and gratitude for the good people of this town. From past experience when a march by the Anglian Regiment took place through my home town of Luton, a small group, about 15 to 20, muslim extremists decided to protest and hurl insults at the soliders. Thousands were there to support them but all the headlines were about the 15 to 20. This led to counter marches from "English" extremist organisations and for a while my town was a no go area for any sort of march or gathering. This is just what this muslim group which i think calls itself Islam4uk hope will happen with Wooton Bassett. No more lining the streets etc etc because of the fear of trouble. The good people of Wooton Bassett do not deserve this. I just hope sanity prevails and this "march" does not go ahead.

[STMO999]

If this government allows it to go ahead, it may just be the final nail in it's coffin. Every cloud has a silver lining.

[bigboykarl]

could you imagine any second generation german familys marchig through london while the second world war was going on..in support of the innocent germans that died at dresden....would we be able to organize a march in saudi arabia for the innocent victims of 9/11

[TheBoy]

When will the idiots realise that Afgan/Iraq/Middle East is not about killing Muslims.  Probably was 800yrs ago, but not now. Pillocks.


Whether its about stamping on terrorism, controlling oil, human rights or other politics depends on which fence you sit on. But I don't think anyone agrees its about killing Muslims or Islam?

[robbo299]

With any religous group/organisation you always get the small number of "extremists" and, sadly, these are nearly always the ones who get heard.

[STMO999]

When will the idiots realise that Afgan/Iraq/Middle East is not about killing Muslims.  Probably was 800yrs ago, but not now. Pillocks.


Whether its about stamping on terrorism, controlling oil, human rights or other politics depends on which fence you sit on. But I don't think anyone agrees its about killing Muslims or Islam?

They dont want to realise. They want to provoke.

[Kevin Wood]

When will the idiots realise that Afgan/Iraq/Middle East is not about killing Muslims.  Probably was 800yrs ago, but not now. Pillocks.


Whether its about stamping on terrorism, controlling oil, human rights or other politics depends on which fence you sit on. But I don't think anyone agrees its about killing Muslims or Islam?

They dont want to realise. They want to provoke.

Exactly. Because they have discovered they can provoke our useless government into playing right into their hands.

Kevin

[TheBoy]

When will the idiots realise that Afgan/Iraq/Middle East is not about killing Muslims.  Probably was 800yrs ago, but not now. Pillocks.


Whether its about stamping on terrorism, controlling oil, human rights or other politics depends on which fence you sit on. But I don't think anyone agrees its about killing Muslims or Islam?

They dont want to realise. They want to provoke.

Exactly. Because they have discovered they can provoke our useless government into playing right into their hands.

Kevin

We are a tolerant society, so we have to tolerate the intolerant.

[STMO999]

When will the idiots realise that Afgan/Iraq/Middle East is not about killing Muslims.  Probably was 800yrs ago, but not now. Pillocks.


Whether its about stamping on terrorism, controlling oil, human rights or other politics depends on which fence you sit on. But I don't think anyone agrees its about killing Muslims or Islam?

They dont want to realise. They want to provoke.

Exactly. Because they have discovered they can provoke our useless government into playing right into their hands.

Kevin

We are a tolerant society, so we have to tolerate the intolerant.

Speak for yourself

[Martin_1962]

Perhaps they should be there for the Muslim members of our forces.

There are quite a few.

[Entwood]

As both a recent ex-serviceman (who has carried fair number of coffins both in the aircraft and on my shoulders) and a resident of Wootton Bassett I too was horrified to read the story, but then a few thoughts kicked in......

These "groups" thrive on publicity, they provoke to get the publicity that enables them to "persuade" others to join them.  The " debate" on any ban actually fuels their cause regardless. If they are banned then they get a massive "we are downtrodden/picked on/racist/whatever" publicity boost

One of the prime reasons for the initial war on the Taliban was the lack of freedom imposed by that regime on its citizens, the oppression and belittling of women in particular. The whole tenet of "western" philosophy is "freedom of speech" and the "right to protest"

If we "ban" this proposed "march" .. and lets face it it is only proposed at the moment ... are we not being rather hypocritical ?? Do we not give fuel to these folks Would we actually turn an "idea" into a "reality" simply by talking about it

I honestly don't know the answer .... but I have a horrible gut feeling that my town, my sense of "right and wrong" and my ideas of "freedom" will all be tested .....  and everyone will lose something .. even if it is only our dignity.

[Nickbat]

As both a recent ex-serviceman (who has carried fair number of coffins both in the aircraft and on my shoulders) and a resident of Wootton Bassett I too was horrified to read the story, but then a few thoughts kicked in......

These "groups" thrive on publicity, they provoke to get the publicity that enables them to "persuade" others to join them.  The " debate" on any ban actually fuels their cause regardless. If they are banned then they get a massive "we are downtrodden/picked on/racist/whatever" publicity boost

One of the prime reasons for the initial war on the Taliban was the lack of freedom imposed by that regime on its citizens, the oppression and belittling of women in particular. The whole tenet of "western" philosophy is "freedom of speech" and the "right to protest"

If we "ban" this proposed "march" .. and lets face it it is only proposed at the moment ... are we not being rather hypocritical ?? Do we not give fuel to these folks Would we actually turn an "idea" into a "reality" simply by talking about it

I honestly don't know the answer .... but I have a horrible gut feeling that my town, my sense of "right and wrong" and my ideas of "freedom" will all be tested .....  and everyone will lose something .. even if it is only our dignity.

I see your point, Entwood, but I believe we should only allow freedom of speech and right to protest to those who would reciprocate. These extremists represent, in my view, groups who would never allow us to speak and protest against terrorism in their own domains, so I am quite happy that they should be denied the right themselves. No hypocrisy. 

[STMO999]

We cant win. That's their whole big idea.

[robbo299]

In my eyes Nigel the town of Wooton Bassett will never lose it`s dignity whatever happens.

[Pitchfork]

With any religous group/organisation you always get the small number of "extremists" and, sadly, these are nearly always the ones who get heard.

.........especially Christians & Jews.
Take a good look at the US!