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Aquarium fish problem (advice needed)
« on: 22 January 2010, 21:43:36 »
We have a 55 litre coldwater tank with a mixture of black moor and fantails. We also have 2 small pleck fish (excuse if dodgy spelling). Our one black moor who is very large compared to the other 2 was treated yesterday for fungus as he had a cotton wool looking substance on him. Since last night he keeps turning upside down and lying in bottom corner of tank then swims again and so forth. The rest of the fish in the aquarium seem fine; should we separate him into a hospital tank and give him treatment for what appears to be swimbladder now or is it too soon after the previous treatment? The cotton wool looking substance has now gone. Any guidance appreciated.
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Re: Aquarium fish problem (advice needed)
« Reply #1 on: 22 January 2010, 21:51:43 »
I know nowt about coldwater, but if it was a tropical tank I would oick him out and treat for swimbladder in a seperate tank.

I have found the chemicals for SB to be harmful to other fish, and the success rate is very low anyway.... so the ill fish dies and gets eaten by the others, so spreading the infection.

The fungal growth will be present in the tank now in spore form .. so you'll have to keep a very close eye on the other fish in case they get it as well.

If the fungal treatment you are using mentions a water change after some time .. make sure you do it and do it on time ... some fungal treatments are long term poisons to fish.
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Re: Aquarium fish problem (advice needed)
« Reply #2 on: 22 January 2010, 21:57:21 »
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I know nowt about coldwater, but if it was a tropical tank I would oick him out and treat for swimbladder in a seperate tank.

I have found the chemicals for SB to be harmful to other fish, and the success rate is very low anyway.... so the ill fish dies and gets eaten by the others, so spreading the infection.

The fungal growth will be present in the tank now in spore form .. so you'll have to keep a very close eye on the other fish in case they get it as well.

If the fungal treatment you are using mentions a water change after some time .. make sure you do it and do it on time ... some fungal treatments are long term poisons to fish.

I agree with Entwood get it out of the main tank, either hospitalise it or..... :-X
I have a large tropical tank, but am not expert, but have learned to be cautious... :)
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Re: Aquarium fish problem (advice needed)
« Reply #3 on: 22 January 2010, 21:57:36 »
normally if its swim bladder they tend to go upside down on the top, ive had that before [well the fish have] after treatment, so now if i get anything like fungus i treat the whole tank with aquatic salt or meth blue, but be warned the meth blue will probably kill your plecs, unfortunately i learnt this the hard way :'( :'(
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Re: Aquarium fish problem (advice needed)
« Reply #4 on: 22 January 2010, 21:59:54 »
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I know nowt about coldwater, but if it was a tropical tank I would oick him out and treat for swimbladder in a seperate tank.

I have found the chemicals for SB to be harmful to other fish, and the success rate is very low anyway.... so the ill fish dies and gets eaten by the others, so spreading the infection.

The fungal growth will be present in the tank now in spore form .. so you'll have to keep a very close eye on the other fish in case they get it as well.

If the fungal treatment you are using mentions a water change after some time .. make sure you do it and do it on time ... some fungal treatments are long term poisons to fish.



Agreed! Swimbladder problems are very rarely resolved and invariably lead to the demise of the affected fish. I would be cruel to be kind & dispose of the poorly fish ASAP (and as humanely as possible) :(
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Re: Aquarium fish problem (advice needed)
« Reply #5 on: 22 January 2010, 22:04:17 »
I agree with Entwood.

When you say placs, do you mean, Plecostomus

Are these the ones, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plecostomus

But I also ask a question.  Are the plecs not tropical fish, how long have they been in the tank.
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« Reply #6 on: 22 January 2010, 22:08:31 »
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I know nowt about coldwater, but if it was a tropical tank I would oick him out and treat for swimbladder in a seperate tank.

I have found the chemicals for SB to be harmful to other fish, and the success rate is very low anyway.... so the ill fish dies and gets eaten by the others, so spreading the infection.

The fungal growth will be present in the tank now in spore form .. so you'll have to keep a very close eye on the other fish in case they get it as well.

If the fungal treatment you are using mentions a water change after some time .. make sure you do it and do it on time ... some fungal treatments are long term poisons to fish.


Thanks for your advice; was thinking of separating him so will try that now. We bought him just under a month ago fom pets at home and he seemed very healthy until yesterday :o
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« Reply #7 on: 22 January 2010, 22:13:13 »
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I agree with Entwood.

When you say placs, do you mean, Plecostomus

Are these the ones, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plecostomus

But I also ask a question.  Are the plecs not tropical fish, how long have they been in the tank.

They are coldwater; we had one last 18 months in the same tank, the current ones have been in there a few weeks :y
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Re: Aquarium fish problem (advice needed)
« Reply #8 on: 22 January 2010, 22:17:54 »
Had Entwood not have said i would have done the same. Quarantine & treat the sick fish & do a partial (half) water change with the remaining, leave it 2 or 3 weeks & do another partial water change so maintaining ph levels & keeping the rest of the tank clear of further infection.
   Again this said with a tropical set up in mind. Best of luck, Guy. :y
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Re: Aquarium fish problem (advice needed)
« Reply #9 on: 22 January 2010, 22:18:14 »
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I agree with Entwood.

When you say placs, do you mean, Plecostomus

Are these the ones, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plecostomus

But I also ask a question.  Are the plecs not tropical fish, how long have they been in the tank.

They are coldwater; we had one last 18 months in the same tank, the current ones have been in there a few weeks :y

Wasnt sure, thats why I mentioned it.

I had 2 large pleccys but mine were in tropical tanks.
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« Reply #10 on: 22 January 2010, 22:26:49 »
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I agree with Entwood.

When you say placs, do you mean, Plecostomus

Are these the ones, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plecostomus

But I also ask a question.  Are the plecs not tropical fish, how long have they been in the tank.

They are coldwater; we had one last 18 months in the same tank, the current ones have been in there a few weeks :y
The only plecs i know where known as pleco cats & were bottom feeders & algae suckers, mottled grey /brown in colour & from 7 to 20 cm long. Tank cleaners, cleaning the gravel & the glass. Usually quiet temprament but i had one years ago that was a bit of a bully & hassled the shoal fish. I took him to a friends tank that was huge & well stocked.
    He was'nt as brave in there!!!! ::)
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I agree with Entwood.

When you say placs, do you mean, Plecostomus

Are these the ones, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plecostomus

But I also ask a question.  Are the plecs not tropical fish, how long have they been in the tank.

They are coldwater; we had one last 18 months in the same tank, the current ones have been in there a few weeks :y

Wasnt sure, thats why I mentioned it.

I had 2 large pleccys but mine were in tropical tanks.

We had a large pleck a few months back and suspect that the pet shop sold us a tropical  fish even though we said ours was coldwater; he only lasted 4 days!
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Re: Aquarium fish problem (advice needed)
« Reply #12 on: 22 January 2010, 22:35:51 »
ive got a tropical set upand a nice growing leopard sailfin plec and have found pets at home to be shite ive had a few fish from em and a few deaths,they gave me whitespot the gits anyway it maybe cruel but a couple of fish have had symptoms from them and to save the rest of my tank i have culled and then water changes
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I agree with Entwood.

When you say placs, do you mean, Plecostomus

Are these the ones, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plecostomus

But I also ask a question.  Are the plecs not tropical fish, how long have they been in the tank.

They are coldwater; we had one last 18 months in the same tank, the current ones have been in there a few weeks :y

Wasnt sure, thats why I mentioned it.

I had 2 large pleccys but mine were in tropical tanks.

We had a large pleck a few months back and suspect that the pet shop sold us a tropical  fish even though we said ours was coldwater; he only lasted 4 days!
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I believe plecs to be tropical but they are tough as old boots so may live in cold water. Hard to say. Most Catfish are pretty hardy & not too precious condition wise.
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