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[Nickbat]

"Toyota is to order a humiliating global recall of the Prius — the hybrid electric car which has become the leader of the green motoring revolution.

In a deepening of the crisis at the world’s largest car manufacturer, Toyota will this week warn 300,000 Prius owners — 3,500 of them in the UK — that the brakes on their car may fail in icy conditions or on bumpy surfaces. "

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/article7018630.ece

 

[tunnie]

The new Prius is an eco-model which is sold for between £19,500 and £22,600

How much for that plastic sh!t box!? 

[TheBoy]

Its a non-story, same as the accelerator one, being blown out of proportion by the UK media as there are no other sensations going on in the world.

Every single manufacturer has recalls.  Don't ever here about the constant recalls on, for example, BMW Mini.

The accelerator one should have made a small column in the middle pages, simply because of the cost to Toyota.  Neither of these issues would have caused lost profits (in new sales) had the media not been a bunch of jacked-up, self centred, moronic pillocks.

[Chris_H]

"Toyota is to order a humiliating global recall of the Prius — the hybrid electric car which has become the leader of the green motoring revolution.

In a deepening of the crisis at the world’s largest car manufacturer, Toyota will this week warn 300,000 Prius owners — 3,500 of them in the UK — that the brakes on their car may fail in icy conditions or on bumpy surfaces. "

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/article7018630.ece

 

I wasn't too worried until I saw the 'bumpy surfaces' bit!  There's a few of those around where I live (the UK).  Yikes!

I can see the ECUs talking to each other....  'which braking system shall we use when the wheels aren't in contact with the road?'.

[Dishevelled Den]

This is another examle of how the need for a Headline seems to take precidence over the mundane reality of the story.


The Prius braking problem, it is understood, can be fixed via a software upgrade that may take around an hour per car

The fault lies in the computer system that links the Prius’s two braking systems – one conventional, the other part of the energy-storage technology

There appears to be no 'brake failure' but a loss of feel as the regenerative system hands over to the convential one and can be overcome by simply pressing the pedal more firmly.

The software enhancement should address that problem.

[Dishevelled Den]

The new Prius is an eco-model which is sold for between £19,500 and £22,600

How much for that plastic sh!t box!? 

I'm rather disappointed at you choice of language there T

[Chris_H]

The new Prius is an eco-model which is sold for between £19,500 and £22,600

How much for that plastic sh!t box!? 

I'm rather disappointed at you choice of language there T

Zulu, I think you automatically get labelled as an eco-terrorist if you own one.  You are clearly in agreement with the arguments on AGW and must be rebuked without further discussion. 

God help us.

[TheBoy]

The new Prius is an eco-model which is sold for between £19,500 and £22,600

How much for that plastic sh!t box!? 

I'm rather disappointed at you choice of language there T

Which bit, the colourful phrase for 'I don't like them', or the shocked bit that a milk float is so expensive?

[Dishevelled Den]

The new Prius is an eco-model which is sold for between £19,500 and £22,600

How much for that plastic sh!t box!? 

I'm rather disappointed at you choice of language there T

Which bit, the colourful phrase for 'I don't like them', or the shocked bit that a milk float is so expensive?

I was referring to 'plastic shit box'

[Dishevelled Den]

The new Prius is an eco-model which is sold for between £19,500 and £22,600

How much for that plastic sh!t box!? 

I'm rather disappointed at you choice of language there T

Zulu, I think you automatically get labelled as an eco-terrorist if you own one.  You are clearly in agreement with the arguments on AGW and must be rebuked without further discussion. 

God help us.

Thank you Chris, I like my punishment firm - but not too firm, à la
Max Moseley

[TheBoy]

The new Prius is an eco-model which is sold for between £19,500 and £22,600

How much for that plastic sh!t box!? 

I'm rather disappointed at you choice of language there T

Which bit, the colourful phrase for 'I don't like them', or the shocked bit that a milk float is so expensive?

I was referring to 'plastic shit box'

I refer to my previous question - what part of PSB did you find offensive - his particular choice of words, or the fact its a milk float?

[Dishevelled Den]

The new Prius is an eco-model which is sold for between £19,500 and £22,600

How much for that plastic sh!t box!? 

I'm rather disappointed at you choice of language there T

Which bit, the colourful phrase for 'I don't like them', or the shocked bit that a milk float is so expensive?

I was referring to 'plastic shit box'

I refer to my previous question - what part of PSB did you find offensive - his particular choice of words, or the fact its a milk float?

I think the term PSB and the way it was used is quite clear - as for the implied critism of the car, I would have liked to have seen why T decided to reduce his doubts of the car's credentials to just such a pejorative phrase.

[TheBoy]

The new Prius is an eco-model which is sold for between £19,500 and £22,600

How much for that plastic sh!t box!? 

I'm rather disappointed at you choice of language there T

Which bit, the colourful phrase for 'I don't like them', or the shocked bit that a milk float is so expensive?

I was referring to 'plastic shit box'

I refer to my previous question - what part of PSB did you find offensive - his particular choice of words, or the fact its a milk float?

I think the term PSB and the way it was used is quite clear - as for the implied critism of the car, I would have liked to have seen why T decided to reduce his doubts of the car's credentials to just such a pejorative phrase.

Probably got that from me  , seeing I was not particularly favourable about them, having had the displeasure of having to drive a few of them  .

In my defence, I believe I only refered to it a SB, not a PSB, so he has probably used a bit of artistic licence - students will be students

[TheBoy]

Opps, sorry Nickbat. In true OOF form, we appear to have taken your original discussion on to a discussion on whether a Toyota MilkFloat is plastic or not.  I don't believe the SB bit is under any debate

[tunnie]

The new Prius is an eco-model which is sold for between £19,500 and £22,600

How much for that plastic sh!t box!? 

I'm rather disappointed at you choice of language there T

Which bit, the colourful phrase for 'I don't like them', or the shocked bit that a milk float is so expensive?

I was referring to 'plastic shit box'

I refer to my previous question - what part of PSB did you find offensive - his particular choice of words, or the fact its a milk float?

I think the term PSB and the way it was used is quite clear - as for the implied critism of the car, I would have liked to have seen why T decided to reduce his doubts of the car's credentials to just such a pejorative phrase.

Its my personal opinion of them in short form 

In long form, ugly, slow, over-hyped, pointless. The amount of work, effort, transportion that goes into building them is huge, far more than a standard car. All that fuel used in transporting parts, batterys across the world cancelles out any gains in mpg.

Consider the basics - Servicing, if i did not DIY, i would take my car 1/2 mile down the road to old 'chunky in town to fix. All jobs can be done there. PSB? That needs to go to a dealer, which would be Oxford for me, a 40 mile round trip on either country roads or the motorway, exactly the place were a Prius is in no way shape or form economical.

If you want something economical get a diesel, if you want to save the planet, wait for hydrogen fuel cell cars. A bunch of AA batterys strapped to a small petrol engine, in a cheap jap box is not the way forward.