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Re: My Elite for sale
« Reply #30 on: 15 February 2010, 18:36:07 »
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Who said you cant buy a cambelt kit for £98 ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-Calibra-Vectra-Omega-V6-Timing-Cam-Belt-Kit_W0QQitemZ260546748298QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3ca9cbdf8a

Can get a cambelt kit for alot less than £98, but I think the receipt pointed at it being installed too for that price.......

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Re: My Elite for sale
« Reply #31 on: 15 February 2010, 18:42:13 »
With mileage adjustment the car is worth in a private sale about what you paid for it.circa £2300.that would be for a car in very good condition with service history and needing nothing doing to it.Deduct from this price the cost of essential repairs,also they put back on the original alloys with worn tyres . You will have to spend money on it if you want the purchase price back.
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Re: My Elite for sale
« Reply #32 on: 15 February 2010, 18:47:05 »
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With mileage adjustment the car is worth in a private sale about what you paid for it.circa £2300.that would be for a car in very good condition with service history and needing nothing doing to it.Deduct from this price the cost of essential repairs,also they put back on the original alloys with worn tyres . You will have to spend money on it if you want the purchase price back.

I thought the same to be honest, but didnt want to upset Diane further by saying it.....

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« Reply #33 on: 15 February 2010, 18:48:02 »
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Just my opinion. Seller should be banned  as it does appear that the car was purchased in good faith and based on seller`s description which, to put it mildly, was misleading >:(

Coming to all this rather late in the day.  Whats misleading about the add? Why should the seller be banned? 

Ultimately, buying and selling anything, anywhere, the rule remains as 'caveat emptor' - buyer beware.

Diane - its fine stating that you will not reduce your price below what you paid - thats fair enough - but I cannot see anywhere what you actually paid.  Your business (and the sellers), no one else's.  If you are selling, then a full and fair add would go a long way....

My tuppenceworth remains the same.  You bought it after perusing the forum to gain an insight into the marque.  You have asked questions of many, recieved info and advice from a lot, and offers of hands on help from several.  I say you will have the better car for getting it fettled whilst you are away in a hire car to france or, indeed, when you return so you can oversee the work.  The final car you run will be all the better for it....   :y
"i then bought it from him in October 2009.
It has full service stamps up to 74,000 miles. Has just had a genuine GM cam kit fitted. There is no need to do water pump as it does not run off of the cam belt but an auxillory belt and i was advised by Vauhall technition not to change."
If that`s not misleading what else do you call it. The seller has implied new cam kit just fitted, very doubtful with no documentary evidence to support. But as you say "caveat emptor"
It says service history to 74k.
It says genuine GM cambelt kit fitted - be that heavily cash discounted, 5 finger discounted or whatever - and 'just' fitted.  That could mean 5 minutes ago, 5 hours/days/weeks/months or whatever the seller/buyer AGREE to, not suppose/assume without further enquiry. 

Selling is different to buying, hence Caveat Emptor...

As said, cant see whats misleading - but can see where someone can see but not read whats there.....
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Re: My Elite for sale
« Reply #34 on: 15 February 2010, 18:49:44 »
Personally, "just fitted" to me means fitted within the last month or so......

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« Reply #35 on: 15 February 2010, 18:51:27 »
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Who said you cant buy a cambelt kit for £98 ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-Calibra-Vectra-Omega-V6-Timing-Cam-Belt-Kit_W0QQitemZ260546748298QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3ca9cbdf8a

Can get a cambelt kit for alot less than £98, but I think the receipt pointed at it being installed too for that price.......

not according to James, earlier in the thread. ;)
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Re: My Elite for sale
« Reply #36 on: 15 February 2010, 19:17:27 »
I told Diane i was staying WELL CLEAR  of the car after communicating with saranbailey and them choosing which questions to answer(the ones that suited them!).If you read both threads on the car they put up you can see evidence of that.  I had an uncomfortable feeling about the car but having been ,in my eyes reprimandeby hotel 21 as to future behaviour on the for sale section.i reeled my neck in!
This car like all others for sale on here should have been made to run the gauntlet!
You have a forum all to do with helping each other and then a protection policy being operated for sellers.Too easy for an unscrupulous member to dump a lemon of a  car on the unsuspecting and then dump the forum.
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« Reply #37 on: 15 February 2010, 19:29:35 »
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I told Diane i was staying WELL CLEAR  of the car after communicating with saranbailey and them choosing which questions to answer(the ones that suited them!).If you read both threads on the car they put up you can see evidence of that.  I had an uncomfortable feeling about the car but having been ,in my eyes reprimandeby hotel 21 as to future behaviour on the for sale section.i reeled my neck in!
This car like all others for sale on here should have been made to run the gauntlet!
You have a forum all to do with helping each other and then a protection policy being operated for sellers.Too easy for an unscrupulous member to dump a lemon of a  car on the unsuspecting and then dump the forum.

Absolute 'dangle berries'!  If you think reprimanded, thats upto you....

If you have something to say about a sales thread then do as is done by any car found anywhere - discuss it in genchat!

Dont diss a thread just because you disagree.  If it was in a forum other than OOF you would link to it, so do the same, for goodness sake....  Its not rocket science....  >:(

A sales thread is that.  If someone is interested then post away asking questions of import but dont shit stir or over enthuse.....
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Re: My Elite for sale
« Reply #38 on: 15 February 2010, 19:39:56 »
I'm not being funny but why should the seller be banned? Is it his fault that no checks were carried out properly? If I had a penny for everytime words on a for sale add had been mis-leading I'd be a very rich man. Di no offence but you bought it, now you're trying to sell it for the same price with all these issue's you've found  :-? Isn't that doing exactly the same thing? If all checks had been carried out properly we wouldn't be having this issue now would we! Yes the seller has to accept some of the blame but he didn't buy it did he.
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Re: My Elite for sale
« Reply #39 on: 15 February 2010, 19:45:10 »
Agreed......Diane decided to buy the car on a motorway service area, without opening even the bonnet and has paid the price for her naivity

Cant really blame the seller, if the buyer wasnt asking the right (if any) questions why would the seller volunteer information that may lose a sale.......??

A lesson in how NOT to buy a car.....


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« Reply #40 on: 15 February 2010, 19:48:15 »
I hope this is not going to degenerate into a slanging match. :o







OK, I hope it does. ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #41 on: 15 February 2010, 19:51:36 »
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I hope this is not going to degenerate into a slanging match. :o







OK, I hope it does. ;D ;D ;D

In stirrer mode again I see. ;D ;D
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Re: My Elite for sale
« Reply #42 on: 15 February 2010, 19:52:10 »
maybe we/OOf should consider ditching the 'For Sale' section .... .it seems to cause more hassle than any other!  ::)  ::) ::)  ::)  ::)
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« Reply #43 on: 15 February 2010, 19:53:51 »
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maybe we/OOf should consider ditching the 'For Sale' section .... .it seems to cause more hassle than any other!  ::)  ::) ::)  ::)  ::)
It certainly generates some lively if not always constructive debate!  :) :)
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« Reply #44 on: 15 February 2010, 19:54:35 »
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maybe we/OOf should consider ditching the 'For Sale' section .... .it seems to cause more hassle than any other!  ::)  ::) ::)  ::)  ::)

Does seem to take a lot of moderating by the admins, but then genuine sellers like Josh will loose out  :(

Maybe increase the post count to 1,000 or something to insure only real members of the community have the ability to sell.
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