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Re: Any mathematicians
« Reply #15 on: 06 March 2010, 21:26:56 »

I disagree

If 1 chance is 1 in 14M

after you have played 1 ticket.

so ticket 2 has a 1 in 13,999,999 chance of winning as you have taken one combination away from the 14M



If you have 2 tickets I see were you say a 1 in 7M chance, but has ticket 2 got a chance of the 2nd 7 million numbers or the other 6,999,999 that ticket 1 did not win.
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Re: Any mathematicians
« Reply #16 on: 06 March 2010, 21:27:58 »

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Predicated as:

6 balls
1-49 numbered

The odds become:

1/49 × 1/48 × 1/47 × 1/46 × 1/45 × 1/44 = 1 in 10,068,347,520

A little errorette....its:

6/49 × 5/48 × 4/47 × 3/46 × 2/45 × 1/44

Because you have 6 numbers to start  :y

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Not wrong, you would have got close to max points for the working out  :y

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Re: Any mathematicians
« Reply #17 on: 06 March 2010, 21:28:59 »

or how about no chance if you dont buy a ticket :D,,,,,,,,now where did i leave my coat ::)
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Re: Any mathematicians
« Reply #18 on: 06 March 2010, 21:34:51 »

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I disagree

If 1 chance is 1 in 14M

after you have played 1 ticket.

so ticket 2 has a 1 in 13,999,999 chance of winning as you have taken one combination away from the 14M



If you have 2 tickets I see were you say a 1 in 7M chance, but has ticket 2 got a chance of the 2nd 7 million numbers or the other 6,999,999 that ticket 1 did not win.

Each line has an equal chance of winning.

1/13,983,816 (first line) OR 1/13,983,816 (second line) = 1/13,983,816 + 13,983,816 = 2/13,983,816 = 1/6,991,908

As your lines are played through the chances of wining do get better but against the same set of six numbers from the draw, not against the first 7 million or the second 7 million of possible combinations.
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Re: Any mathematicians
« Reply #19 on: 06 March 2010, 21:36:42 »

The way I look at it Skruntie: If you buy two tickets, you DOUBLE your chances, so you HALVE the odds. I think that's right.
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Re: Any mathematicians
« Reply #20 on: 06 March 2010, 21:50:49 »

I agree with Mr Skruntie,however i wish to share a top tip.
Do the same numbers twice,if you are the only winner then you have wasted a quid which wont dent the prize too much but if the winning combination is held by others as well then you just got yourself an additional share.
e.g 3 winners pot 15m,you are 2 of the winners so get 10m.If you only had the numbers once you would only have got 7.5m.
Plus having the same numbers twice(only you know this) means you only have to give away a share of  half what you won with all the best friends,long lost relatives,charities etc.
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Re: Any mathematicians
« Reply #21 on: 06 March 2010, 21:57:10 »

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I agree with Mr Skruntie,however i wish to share a top tip.
Do the same numbers twice,if you are the only winner then you have wasted a quid which wont dent the prize too much but if the winning combination is held by others as well then you just got yourself an additional share.
e.g 3 winners pot 15m,you are 2 of the winners so get 10m.If you only had the numbers once you would only have got 7.5m.
Plus having the same numbers twice(only you know this) means you only have to give away a share of  half what you won with all the best friends,long lost relatives,charities etc.


Great in theory. But you are assuming a win. It's more likely you'll win nothing and simply end up spending twice as much on tickets.
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Re: Any mathematicians
« Reply #22 on: 06 March 2010, 22:41:15 »

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Predicated as:

6 balls
1-49 numbered

The odds become:

1/49 × 1/48 × 1/47 × 1/46 × 1/45 × 1/44 = 1 in 10,068,347,520


.....I'm surprised Ms Debs is so poor at maths.......I won't believe anything she posts from now on..... ::) ::) ;) :-*
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Re: Any mathematicians
« Reply #23 on: 06 March 2010, 23:04:26 »

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Predicated as:

6 balls
1-49 numbered

The odds become:

1/49 × 1/48 × 1/47 × 1/46 × 1/45 × 1/44 = 1 in 10,068,347,520


.....I'm surprised Ms Debs is so poor at maths.......I won't believe anything she posts from now on..... ::) ::) ;) :-*

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Re: Any mathematicians
« Reply #24 on: 07 March 2010, 02:08:59 »

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I agree with Mr Skruntie,however i wish to share a top tip.
Do the same numbers twice,if you are the only winner then you have wasted a quid which wont dent the prize too much but if the winning combination is held by others as well then you just got yourself an additional share.
e.g 3 winners pot 15m,you are 2 of the winners so get 10m.If you only had the numbers once you would only have got 7.5m.
Plus having the same numbers twice(only you know this) means you only have to give away a share of  half what you won with all the best friends,long lost relatives,charities etc.

another top tip is - don't play 1,2,3,4,5,6 because if it wins (and its just as likely to win as any other combination of course) you'll be sharing the jackpot with about 100000 others who think they're the only ones to think of it  :y
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Re: Any mathematicians
« Reply #25 on: 07 March 2010, 12:35:32 »

We were always told at school...( by our very sexy 25 year old Maths teacher :-* :-*) ..... there is no such thing as "The law of averages".....and I agree. :y :y
You are equally as likely to throw a six.....six times in succession.......as you are to throw any other random combination of six  numbers.......I think. ::) ;)
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Re: Any mathematicians
« Reply #26 on: 07 March 2010, 13:24:57 »

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We were always told at school...( by our very sexy 25 year old Maths teacher :-* :-*) ..... there is no such thing as "The law of averages".....and I agree. :y :y
You are equally as likely to throw a six.....six times in succession.......as you are to throw any other random combination of six  numbers.......I think. ::) ;)

There is probability and averages....both are real yet they do often oppose each other.
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Re: Any mathematicians
« Reply #27 on: 07 March 2010, 13:26:59 »

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We were always told at school...( by our very sexy 25 year old Maths teacher :-* :-*) ..... there is no such thing as "The law of averages".....and I agree. :y :y
You are equally as likely to throw a six.....six times in succession.......as you are to throw any other random combination of six  numbers.......I think. ::) ;)

 ::) Was he 'that' nice?  ;D
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Re: Any mathematicians
« Reply #28 on: 07 March 2010, 13:39:01 »

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We were always told at school...( by our very sexy 25 year old Maths teacher :-* :-*) ..... there is no such thing as "The law of averages".....and I agree. :y :y
You are equally as likely to throw a six.....six times in succession.......as you are to throw any other random combination of six  numbers.......I think. ::) ;)

 ::) Was he 'that' nice;D
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......Damn you Debs  ;D ;D........and I was trying to sound.......... sooooo hetrosexual...... ::) ;) :-*
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Re: Any mathematicians
« Reply #29 on: 10 March 2010, 11:02:09 »

So if you had a spare 14m (just go with me here lol)
and the jackpot was more than double the 14m, say after a few roll overs
would it be worth doing to make more money?


How many combinations are there for the Euromillions 'cos thats usually over 28m prize money?

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