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[Nickbat]

I must be missing something here: What madman would weigh eggs anyway? :-/

Can't remember ever seeing a recipe that called for "250g of Egg".

Kevin

You don't of course weigh eggs, no more than have a receipy dictating weight of eggs Kevin.

But when you are packaging, costing, retailing and purchasing eggs it is far easier and commercially sensible to deal in metric calculation.

Having declared my support for the metric system I'm still trying to understand why an item such as (in this case) eggs can't be sold by numerical quantity rather than weight as the system embraces both measurements.

Does it really make that much difference to packaging, costing and so on?

??  Sorry Zulu, I do not understand your point.  Eggs ARE sold in numerical quantity - 6s, 12s, 18s 
 
Those quantities I suggest should be 5s, 10s, 20s

That is precisely the point. The EU is proposing that we CAN'T advertise/sell eggs in numeric quantities, only by weight. Thus, it has nothing to do with metrication.

It's plainly a case of rules for rules' sake.


You wait. Next it will be illegal to sell beer in pints. 

The main point is why should an outside agency dictate to us how we should sell eggs? FFS! 

[Richie London]

I must be missing something here: What madman would weigh eggs anyway? :-/

Can't remember ever seeing a recipe that called for "250g of Egg".

Kevin

You don't of course weigh eggs, no more than have a receipy dictating weight of eggs Kevin.

But when you are packaging, costing, retailing and purchasing eggs it is far easier and commercially sensible to deal in metric calculation.

Having declared my support for the metric system I'm still trying to understand why an item such as (in this case) eggs can't be sold by numerical quantity rather than weight as the system embraces both measurements.

Does it really make that much difference to packaging, costing and so on?

??  Sorry Zulu, I do not understand your point.  Eggs ARE sold in numerical quantity - 6s, 12s, 18s 
 
Those quantities I suggest should be 5s, 10s, 20s

That is precisely the point. The EU is proposing that we CAN'T advertise/sell eggs in numeric quantities, only by weight. Thus, it has nothing to do with metrication.

It's plainly a case of rules for rules' sake.


You wait. Next it will be illegal to sell beer in pints. 

The main point is why should an outside agency dictate to us how we should sell eggs? FFS! 

selling beer in litres suits me if it sells for 3quid a litre instead of 3 for a pint 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I must be missing something here: What madman would weigh eggs anyway? :-/

Can't remember ever seeing a recipe that called for "250g of Egg".

Kevin

You don't of course weigh eggs, no more than have a receipy dictating weight of eggs Kevin.

But when you are packaging, costing, retailing and purchasing eggs it is far easier and commercially sensible to deal in metric calculation.

Having declared my support for the metric system I'm still trying to understand why an item such as (in this case) eggs can't be sold by numerical quantity rather than weight as the system embraces both measurements.

Does it really make that much difference to packaging, costing and so on?

??  Sorry Zulu, I do not understand your point.  Eggs ARE sold in numerical quantity - 6s, 12s, 18s 
 
Those quantities I suggest should be 5s, 10s, 20s

That is precisely the point. The EU is proposing that we CAN'T advertise/sell eggs in numeric quantities, only by weight. Thus, it has nothing to do with metrication.

It's plainly a case of rules for rules' sake.


You wait. Next it will be illegal to sell beer in pints. 

The main point is why should an outside agency dictate to us how we should sell eggs? FFS! 

Don't worry Nick, we know that will never happen as the major players in the market - the supermarket chains of Britain - will stop any moves to stop selling eggs by quantity, and this "story" is just another piece of D.Mail scaremongering. 

But what I am saying is eggs should be packed in metric quantities, with no more dogma about sticking to imperial measurement.  It is so dated and cumbersome.

[Nickbat]

Don't worry Nick, we know that will never happen as the major players in the market - the supermarket chains of Britain - will stop any moves to stop selling eggs by quantity, and this "story" is just another piece of D.Mail scaremongering. 

But what I am saying is eggs should be packed in metric quantities, with no more dogma about sticking to imperial measurement.  It is so dated and cumbersome.

But why use the term "should be"? Producers/retailers can currently sell eggs in any number they want (you can buy them in 15s at Cosco). My point is why should any agency use statutory instruments to force the sale in multiples of 10?

It is a bizarre waste of time. Has anyone complained that our centuries-old tradition of selling eggs by the dozen is "cumbersome"? I don't think so. 

[Varche]

And we are off again. Like I keep saying we are members of the EU club (like it or not) so we need to step up to the mark and make our voice heard. Over to you Mr Cameron. This sort of stupid waste of taxpayers money (cos that is how they are paid) needs to also be included in austerity measures too.

Here is a practical Spanish perspective on things.

Bananas and Cucumbers. They sell any old shapes here. always have and always will.

Same with Tomatoes and other fruit and veg. I think it is a uniquely British thing to actually get wound up to obey any rules. In fact Britain will employ an army of inspectors to crack down on anyone who bends the "law" by even a fraction. As a Nationality we are so up our own jacksies.

On a lighter note, Piping and tubing is sold here in "pulgadas", Inches in other words. So you go and buy so many metres of tubing at say 1 and a quarter inch diameter. I think that must be a hangover from the time when the Victorians led the world in engineering. Some of the more common sizes (like in the UK) are also in metric e.g. 15mm. I haven't found out for sure yet but suspect threads on bolts will be the same as UK standards too.

I asked a couple of Spanish guys recently why Tyres and wheels on all their cars were in inches not in metric. They hadn't a clue and cared even less.  Again that illustrates their mentality.
But then these are the same people who would never dream of having a foreigner manage their football team or fill their supermarkets with food from loads of foreign countries.

[Banjax]

And we are off again. Like I keep saying we are members of the EU club (like it or not) so we need to step up to the mark and make our voice heard. Over to you Mr Cameron. This sort of stupid waste of taxpayers money (cos that is how they are paid) needs to also be included in austerity measures too.

Here is a practical Spanish perspective on things.

Bananas and Cucumbers. They sell any old shapes here. always have and always will.

Same with Tomatoes and other fruit and veg. I think it is a uniquely British thing to actually get wound up to obey any rules. In fact Britain will employ an army of inspectors to crack down on anyone who bends the "law" by even a fraction. As a Nationality we are so up our own jacksies.

On a lighter note, Piping and tubing is sold here in "pulgadas", Inches in other words. So you go and buy so many metres of tubing at say 1 and a quarter inch diameter. I think that must be a hangover from the time when the Victorians led the world in engineering. Some of the more common sizes (like in the UK) are also in metric e.g. 15mm. I haven't found out for sure yet but suspect threads on bolts will be the same as UK standards too.

I asked a couple of Spanish guys recently why Tyres and wheels on all their cars were in inches not in metric. They hadn't a clue and cared even less.  Again that illustrates their mentality.
But then these are the same people who would never dream of having a foreigner manage their football team or fill their supermarkets with food from loads of foreign countries.

you're right Varche, we get worked up about it, the rest of europe simply ignores it if its not useful or practical - can't we relax a bit? i couldnt give 2 hoots about this to be honest, but if it bothers you, refuse to buy any eggs labelled in weight and not number......tesco's et al would soon ditch it, but as usual most of us couldnt care, despite the klaxons, spinning wheels, squawking and flapping arms of the Daily Mails' finest

[Dishevelled Den]

And we are off again. Like I keep saying we are members of the EU club (like it or not) so we need to step up to the mark and make our voice heard. Over to you Mr Cameron. This sort of stupid waste of taxpayers money (cos that is how they are paid) needs to also be included in austerity measures too.

Here is a practical Spanish perspective on things.

Bananas and Cucumbers. They sell any old shapes here. always have and always will.

Same with Tomatoes and other fruit and veg. I think it is a uniquely British thing to actually get wound up to obey any rules. In fact Britain will employ an army of inspectors to crack down on anyone who bends the "law" by even a fraction. As a Nationality we are so up our own jacksies.

On a lighter note, Piping and tubing is sold here in "pulgadas", Inches in other words. So you go and buy so many metres of tubing at say 1 and a quarter inch diameter. I think that must be a hangover from the time when the Victorians led the world in engineering. Some of the more common sizes (like in the UK) are also in metric e.g. 15mm. I haven't found out for sure yet but suspect threads on bolts will be the same as UK standards too.

I asked a couple of Spanish guys recently why Tyres and wheels on all their cars were in inches not in metric. They hadn't a clue and cared even less.  Again that illustrates their mentality.
But then these are the same people who would never dream of having a foreigner manage their football team or fill their supermarkets with food from loads of foreign countries.

Like I keep saying we are members of the EU club (like it or not) so we need to step up to the mark and make our voice heard. Over to you Mr Cameron. This sort of stupid waste of taxpayers money (cos that is how they are paid) needs to also be included in austerity measures too.

Here is a practical Spanish perspective on things.

Bananas and Cucumbers. They sell any old shapes here. always have and always will.

Same with Tomatoes and other fruit and veg. I think it is a uniquely British thing to actually get wound up to obey any rules. In fact Britain will employ an army of inspectors to crack down on anyone who bends the "law" by even a fraction. As a Nationality we are so up our own jacksies.

Varche - please don't take this the wrong way, but I may have finally fallen in love with you

[Dishevelled Den]

And we are off again. Like I keep saying we are members of the EU club (like it or not) so we need to step up to the mark and make our voice heard. Over to you Mr Cameron. This sort of stupid waste of taxpayers money (cos that is how they are paid) needs to also be included in austerity measures too.

Here is a practical Spanish perspective on things.

Bananas and Cucumbers. They sell any old shapes here. always have and always will.

Same with Tomatoes and other fruit and veg. I think it is a uniquely British thing to actually get wound up to obey any rules. In fact Britain will employ an army of inspectors to crack down on anyone who bends the "law" by even a fraction. As a Nationality we are so up our own jacksies.

On a lighter note, Piping and tubing is sold here in "pulgadas", Inches in other words. So you go and buy so many metres of tubing at say 1 and a quarter inch diameter. I think that must be a hangover from the time when the Victorians led the world in engineering. Some of the more common sizes (like in the UK) are also in metric e.g. 15mm. I haven't found out for sure yet but suspect threads on bolts will be the same as UK standards too.

I asked a couple of Spanish guys recently why Tyres and wheels on all their cars were in inches not in metric. They hadn't a clue and cared even less.  Again that illustrates their mentality.
But then these are the same people who would never dream of having a foreigner manage their football team or fill their supermarkets with food from loads of foreign countries.

you're right Varche, we get worked up about it, the rest of europe simply ignores it if its not useful or practical - can't we relax a bit? i couldnt give 2 hoots about this to be honest, but if it bothers you, refuse to buy any eggs labelled in weight and not number......tesco's et al would soon ditch it, but as usual most of us couldnt care, despite the klaxons, spinning wheels, squawking and flapping arms of the Daily Mails' finest

  How dare you BJ, it also appeared in the Telegraph as well!!

[Nickbat]

Varche, you make some good points there!

Also, international air traffic control is conducted in English using feet for flight levels and knots for windspeed.

(It won't please Lizzie to read that!!  )

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Varche, you make some good points there!

Also, international air traffic control is conducted in English using feet for flight levels and knots for windspeed.

(It won't please Lizzie to read that!!  )

    Yes, and why is that?  Because the USA is the world's superpower and produces a majority of the world's aircraft, with also a very large market for aircraft, so following on from Britain's Empire, it makes sense at this time to retain English as the key language and feet for gauging height.  Another century, in another time, who knows!!

But when it comes to unit measurement and weight for the produce we ship and receive from across the world, well I still hold with my views, for commercial and consumer reasons, that we should go fully metric.  It just makes pure common sense as well 8-) 8-)

[Varche]

Varche, you make some good points there!

Also, international air traffic control is conducted in English using feet for flight levels and knots for windspeed.

(It won't please Lizzie to read that!!  )

International Golf. All in Yardage. I believe.

[Nickbat]

Varche, you make some good points there!

Also, international air traffic control is conducted in English using feet for flight levels and knots for windspeed.

(It won't please Lizzie to read that!!  )

International Golf. All in Yardage. I believe.

Yes, Varche, and racehorses are still traded in guineas...

..and gold is traded in troy ounces (from Saxon times)

[Richie London]

if cameron didnt have the bottle to stand up to obama over the bp crisis he definatly wont stand up to the eu.

[Dishevelled Den]

can't you open the box and count? i don't think i'd go to war over this to be honest 
 when was the last time anyone on here asked for a dozen eggs? dont you just pick up a box, check to see they're not cracked and move on to the tea and coffee section....like everyone else? 

That's how most people buy them BJ however the point was that there seems to a directive in the offing that will force suppliers to package and sell eggs by weight - with all that it implies for production/package costs and, of course, the inevitable enforcement cost.

[LaserLance]

I can see myself looking in the isle for eggs to see howmnay there are in a box when i pay a visit ti to supermarket next time in over on continent  I 'm surprised someone never brought up the old chestnut about us changing over to LHD