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[tidla]

RIGHT THEN.... The term Pikey   

(I still think the reason that muslims take there shoes off when going into the mosque is cos they have a great big bouncy castle in there !!)

So what about the flag burning that was so popular just after 9/11 ?

Where would we be without the Indomitable British Humour? :-/

could give the opposing sides a feather pillow each and let them sort the issues out that way.

[Steve 1564]

... Maybe if the chineese went into Afghanistan.. I think you would just hear a noise like "fetzz"... and google maps would just show a splat mark where it used to be - Plus they dont have the greatest human rights record - Guantanamo bay would look like butlins in comparison !

[TheBoy]

But.... All terrorists ARE muslims

IRA are Muslims
ETA?

What a load of popycock 

[Steve 1564]

Ok... point taken - But recently and in many numbers !

[TheBoy]

Ok... point taken - But recently and in many numbers !

Presumably you have access to the statistics then, as I'm sure you're intelligent enough not to take much notice of mainstream media?

Obviously, if a Western country(s) invade 2 Islamic states, there are going to be an awful lot of angry people...

[Steve 1564]

Obviously, if a Western country(s) invade 2 Islamic states, there are going to be an awful lot of angry people...

IMHO maybe they should have done a better job !

Yep it's about 1% - Of a uk population of 2,065,012

It took 4 to fly a plane into each of the twin towers - based on that they have the capacity to kill, mame or genraly spiol the day of 8260000 infidels.... beats anything ETA, the IRA or the peoples popular front of judea ever did....

[steve_daly]

WOW interesting stuff, as is the conspiracy thread. I have many opinions both on this and the other but I choose for the moment at least to remain at the back of the class and watch.....

But, would as much fuss have been made if a Muslim was burning a Bible?

[jonnycool]

WOW interesting stuff, as is the conspiracy thread. I have many opinions both on this and the other but I choose for the moment at least to remain at the back of the class and watch.....

But, would as much fuss have been made if a Muslim was burning a Bible?

I'm sure they have, and the press have refrained from printing it

[Vamps]

WOW interesting stuff, as is the conspiracy thread. I have many opinions both on this and the other but I choose for the moment at least to remain at the back of the class and watch.....

But, would as much fuss have been made if a Muslim was burning a Bible?

I'm sure they have, and the press have refrained from printing it

Totally off subject, but I fear that the Press are responsible for exaggerating so many things in todays society, and I should add the Internet, that causes even more problems.......

[jonnycool]

WOW interesting stuff, as is the conspiracy thread. I have many opinions both on this and the other but I choose for the moment at least to remain at the back of the class and watch.....

But, would as much fuss have been made if a Muslim was burning a Bible?

I'm sure they have, and the press have refrained from printing it

Totally off subject, but I fear that the Press are responsible for exaggerating so many things in todays society, and I should add the Internet, that causes even more problems.......

Completely agree 

[geoffr70]

Zulu77, I'm just wondering what particular mindset you think I have, regarding my use of the word 'alleged' in relation to a prophet called mohammed and his teachings.

I use the word alleged for a number of reasons.

1. I am not a muslim.
2. I do not believe in Islam (or any religion - I believe religion is there for power, control, money and subjugation, but that's another issue).
3. 'Alleged', is a word used when discussing something unproven. How can we not use the word 'alleged' when talking about things as fancy as thus?

Even if you ask a muslim about the events when their prophet mohammed was allegedly spoken to by god, or a christian about their alleged events, or any other religion, we would be wrong in not using the word alleged, as when pressed they will all tell you that they have faith, not proof, or evidence to back it up, and these are believers! You could argue that they have their alleged religious books, which can be used as proof or evidence. I tend to think these are tall stories, no doubt I'll be told off for saying that, we've all got our own opinions!

Even alleged religious books, are only a collection of fact and fiction (decide the ratio for yourself), cobbled together and bastardised over the years, with nothing to back them up.

If you think I have the mindset of a free thinker, who makes informed decisions, who makes his own mind up, not unduely influenced by others, or far fetched fanciful stories designed to subjugate and control us, least of all from the most self serving of the Abrahamic religions, then you're right!

[Richie London]

religion should be banned, faith has nothing to do with religion, its backdoor politics.

[Dishevelled Den]

Zulu77, I'm just wondering what particular mindset you think I have, regarding my use of the word 'alleged' in relation to a prophet called mohammed and his teachings.

I use the word alleged for a number of reasons.

1. I am not a muslim.
2. I do not believe in Islam (or any religion - I believe religion is there for power, control, money and subjugation, but that's another issue).
3. 'Alleged', is a word used when discussing something unproven. How can we not use the word 'alleged' when talking about things as fancy as thus?

Even if you ask a muslim about the events when their prophet mohammed was allegedly spoken to by god, or a christian about their alleged events, or any other religion, we would be wrong in not using the word alleged, as when pressed they will all tell you that they have faith, not proof, or evidence to back it up, and these are believers! You could argue that they have their alleged religious books, which can be used as proof or evidence. I tend to think these are tall stories, no doubt I'll be told off for saying that, we've all got our own opinions!

Even alleged religious books, are only a collection of fact and fiction (decide the ratio for yourself), cobbled together and bastardised over the years, with nothing to back them up.

If you think I have the mindset of a free thinker, who makes informed decisions, who makes his own mind up, not unduely influenced by others, or far fetched fanciful stories designed to subjugate and control us, least of all from the most self serving of the Abrahamic religions, then you're right!

Thank you for taking the time to consider this response and explaining your line of thought Geoff.

I can now see that you seem to hold a particular opinion on the basic tenets of mainstream 'religion' that wasn't very clear from your initial piece.

Now that you've explained the thinking in your choice of the word 'alleged' I can begin to appreciate your position.

Your initial post now seems to be less of an outright diatribe about the unsavoury (or otherwise) inclinations of the followers of a particular religious discipline (Islam) and more about your concerns of how fervency in, and adherence to, a belief can encourage people to think and behave in a particular way.

You might again be surprised to learn that I agree with more of your opinion than perhaps you would immediately expect.

 

[bob.dent]

religion should be banned, faith has nothing to do with religion, its backdoor politics.

Totally agreed, causes more problems and wars than anything else.
There are certain Islamic factions (I repeat......factions, before I get a torrent of abuse) in the Middle East that brainwash their kids from birth to hate the Western world............they eventually turn into those pillars of society called terrorist!

[bigboykarl]

at least he only threatened to burn a book,they do more than that in pakistan
http://www.pakistanchristianpost.com/headlinenewsd.php?hnewsid=1402