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[Broomies Mate]

Have also worked on & flown in Nimrods, BUT.. just because I don't agree/disagree with someone, there's no real need too lay into someone just because YOU THINK you know better !!!

I think you need to learn a little RESPECT....and quickly.....

I THINK I know better?  I was right in what I said, and I claim the newspaper got it wrongt.  How could I possibly be wrong?  You worked on them, you know the score.

Dont type RESPECT in caps and try to condescend me.  It wont work. 

I have apologised to those I possibly offended, but I stand by my statements.

[Shackeng]

The Nimrods are unneccesary and just a waste of money.  I'm glad they are being stripped.  Just hope the bloke running the weighbridge pays a fair price.

Detection of any Nuclear Sub can only be made when it is near or on the surface.... it's a visual detection.  You can do that with a £50,000 Cessna.

I cant say I'm happy about all the 'defence' cuts, but this one makes sense.

Unfortunately this appears to be what the Government also believes. Not true incidentally.

[Shackeng]

As said, if I have offended anyone then I apologise!

This is a subject I am particularly passionate about.

Then, with respect, I suggest you inform yourself a little better. The statement regarding 'eavesdropping' is entirely correct. However as you point out, this is difficult with submerged submarines. The MR4A is (was) equipped with state of the art ISTAR (Intelligence, Surveillance, Target Acquisition, and Reconnaissance) capability also, which is not solely, or indeed even primarily, designed for use against submarines. Why do you think Nimrod was deployed in the current conflict?

[Varche]

What gets my goat is the vast sums of money involved. Either we need the weapons/kit or whatever or we don't. The people responsible for such profligate waste from poor decisions ought to be shot at dawn.

Next we will commit to £25billion (actually it will turn out to be £50billion) for Trident replacement then scrap that half way through BUT have to pay the full £50billion because of poorly drawn up contracts.

Personally I think it is high time we acted like an equal in our EU Partnership. If there is a problem we will send our share of men and machines. Nothing more and nothing less. Just who do we think we are?

[Marks DTM Calib]

The inside info I got from certain members of the design team (former collegues) is that it is not fully functional.

[Shackeng]

The inside info I got from certain members of the design team (former collegues) is that it is not fully functional.

Neither was all the kit in the MR1's initially, but it became a superb maritime platform. The 4A, because of its huge capabilities, had some bugs to be sorted, but you don't scrap your Omega because the radio fails to work.