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Re: Lies, damned lies and statistics
« Reply #15 on: 26 November 2010, 23:13:48 »

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Lizzie and Chris, you must have had a much better summer than we had. Our grass grew massively, combination of rain and sun. Never once did it show any sign of turning brown. In fact my grape vine had it's best year ever this year. And the apples we have had are many and large.

Agreed, we did have a few weeks in June but the school summer holidays were very poor up here..... :(
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Re: Lies, damned lies and statistics
« Reply #16 on: 26 November 2010, 23:35:35 »

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Lizzie and Chris, you must have had a much better summer than we had. Our grass grew massively, combination of rain and sun. Never once did it show any sign of turning brown. In fact my grape vine had it's best year ever this year. And the apples we have had are many and large.

Agreed, we did have a few weeks in June but the school summer holidays were very poor up here..... :(
We are still waiting for global warming to reach us...... :D :D :D







I wish it would bloody hurry up! There's 3" of snow on the car since 9-o' clock & it is still coming down like there's no tomorrow! :(

Same here, thick and heavy at the moment.... ::) We are supposed to be going to 'Clays' tomorrow and then Washington, we will review the situation in the morning... ::) ::)
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Re: Lies, damned lies and statistics
« Reply #17 on: 14 December 2010, 14:28:13 »

Thought I would bring this back to the top. Just wondering if the MET office is still predicting 2010 to be one of the hottest years. With all the snow and record cold temparatures  ;D
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« Reply #18 on: 14 December 2010, 14:58:23 »

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Thought I would bring this back to the top. Just wondering if the MET office is still predicting 2010 to be one of the hottest years. With all the snow and record cold temparatures  ;D

Crikey, of course they will  predict this and they will produce the "numbers" to prove it. The only snag is, that they are talking in terms of hundredths and tenths of a degree, averaged out, with large areas of the planet not covered and missing station data guesstimated. Of course the other snag is that over the last few decades, an increasing number of weather stations have been sited, or have grown up in, urban sites. The trouble with that is that NASA now reckons that this so-called "Urban Heat Island" effect can be up to 9 full degrees celcius! So how can this average of averages (day & nght) of widely-differing station data be of much use when trying to work out a trend to two decimal places. As someone once said, the "average" temperature on earth is as meaningful as the average number in a phone book.  ;)

Oh, and you mustn't confuse weather and climate. It's only climate when it's hot weather. hen it's cold, it's just weather. OK?  ;) ;D ;D

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Re: Lies, damned lies and statistics
« Reply #19 on: 14 December 2010, 16:11:49 »

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Thought I would bring this back to the top. Just wondering if the MET office is still predicting 2010 to be one of the hottest years. With all the snow and record cold temparatures  ;D

2010 has been the hottest year on record hasn't it? don't get confused by the cold weather - that's my advice.

Nickbat agrees  :y
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« Reply #20 on: 14 December 2010, 16:33:56 »

 ;D

Funnily enough we where talking about this at work. And I cannot think of the last time we got snow twice in the same year, I mean the beginning and end of the same year. I realise we do not get the white as often as you chaps up north, but I cannot recall in my lifetime this happening (I am 45) I do remember very cold winters in the mid to late 70s
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« Reply #21 on: 14 December 2010, 16:41:34 »

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Thought I would bring this back to the top. Just wondering if the MET office is still predicting 2010 to be one of the hottest years. With all the snow and record cold temparatures  ;D

2010 has been the hottest year on record hasn't it? don't get confused by the cold weather - that's my advice.

Nickbat agrees :y


The record's not kosher, IMHO. ;)
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Re: Lies, damned lies and statistics
« Reply #22 on: 14 December 2010, 16:50:48 »

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Lizzie and Chris, you must have had a much better summer than we had. Our grass grew massively, combination of rain and sun. Never once did it show any sign of turning brown. In fact my grape vine had it's best year ever this year. And the apples we have had are many and large.

Agreed, we did have a few weeks in June but the school summer holidays were very poor up here..... :(
We are still waiting for global warming to reach us...... :D :D :D







We're still waiting for the bloody Stagecoach to reach us! ::) ;)
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