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[Banjax]

I'll stick with NASA for now 

Yes, a fair enough position BJ.

What is the answer to mitigating human involvement and continued behaviour in this change?

[/u]

Perhaps , as a start , those who vilify non believers and escpouse the concept that man should minimise his , or her , carbon footprint should consider the hypocracy of driving around in a large V6  automatic saloon . 

ahh - you see, just because I accept us to be at fault, doesn't mean I care enough to do anything about it 

common mistake 

[Dishevelled Den]

I'll stick with NASA for now 

Yes, a fair enough position BJ.

What is the answer to mitigating human involvement and continued behaviour in this change?

[/u]

Perhaps , as a start , those who vilify non believers and espouse the concept that man should minimise his , or her , carbon footprint should consider the hypocracy of driving around in a large V6  automatic saloon . 

In that case D as I'm the owner (and occasional driver) of a Desmond, my conscience is clear.

[Olympia5776]

I'll stick with NASA for now 

Yes, a fair enough position BJ.

What is the answer to mitigating human involvement and continued behaviour in this change?

[/u]

Perhaps , as a start , those who vilify non believers and espouse the concept that man should minimise his , or her , carbon footprint should consider the hypocracy of driving around in a large V6  automatic saloon . 

In that case D as I'm the owner (and occasional driver) of a Desmond, my conscience is clear.

 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I'll stick with NASA for now 

Yes, a fair enough position BJ.

What is the answer to mitigating human involvement and continued behaviour in this change?

[/u]

Perhaps , as a start , those who vilify non believers and espouse the concept that man should minimise his , or her , carbon footprint should consider the hypocracy of driving around in a large V6  automatic saloon . 

But you see we may not be perfect, but I for me do the following to offset my V6 ownership.

I drive far less than ever before.  I recycle everything I can.  I use energy efficient light bulbs throughout my home, with all appliances fully turned off at night. The central heating thermostat is turned down to operate at a temperature as low as my health may take.  All radiators have thermostats.  My windows are double glazed.  I buy food in the least packaging possible, and cook on mass the meals I eat from fresh ingredients, and rarely have 'ready meals'.  I rarely take holidays abroad now using aircraft. 

Oh, and I tend to buy old cars and keep them for some years, and not new ones expensively produced using huge amounts of energy!

That's me then, how about you?

[Nickbat]

News today:

Prof John Beddington [the Government's chief scientific adviser] admitted the impact of global warming had been exaggerated by some scientists and condemned climate researchers who refused to publish data which formed the basis of their reports into global warming.

In an interview, Prof Beddington, called for a new era of honesty and responsibility from the environmental community and said scientists should be less hostile to sceptics who questioned man-made global warming.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7081039/John-Beddington-chief-scientist-says-climate-change-sceptics-should-not-be-dismissed.html

What he said. 

[Olympia5776]

I'll stick with NASA for now 

Yes, a fair enough position BJ.

What is the answer to mitigating human involvement and continued behaviour in this change?

[/u]

Perhaps , as a start , those who vilify non believers and espouse the concept that man should minimise his , or her , carbon footprint should consider the hypocracy of driving around in a large V6  automatic saloon . 

But you see we may not be perfect, but I for me do the following to offset my V6 ownership.

I drive far less than ever before.  I recycle everything I can.  I use energy efficient light bulbs throughout my home, with all appliances fully turned off at night. The central heating thermostat is turned down to operate at a temperature as low as my health may take.  All radiators have thermostats.  My windows are double glazed.  I buy food in the least packaging possible, and cook on mass the meals I eat from fresh ingredients, and rarely have 'ready meals'.  I rarely take holidays abroad now using aircraft. 

Oh, and I tend to buy old cars and keep them for some years, and not new ones expensively produced using huge amounts of energy!

That's me then, how about you?

Yeah , I do all that too.......... 

[albitz]

I'll stick with NASA for now 

Yes, a fair enough position BJ.

What is the answer to mitigating human involvement and continued behaviour in this change?

[/u]

Perhaps , as a start , those who vilify non believers and espouse the concept that man should minimise his , or her , carbon footprint should consider the hypocracy of driving around in a large V6  automatic saloon . 

But you see we may not be perfect, but I for me do the following to offset my V6 ownership.

I drive far less than ever before.  I recycle everything I can.  I use energy efficient light bulbs throughout my home, with all appliances fully turned off at night. The central heating thermostat is turned down to operate at a temperature as low as my health may take.  All radiators have thermostats.  My windows are double glazed.  I buy food in the least packaging possible, and cook on mass the meals I eat from fresh ingredients, and rarely have 'ready meals'.  I rarely take holidays abroad now using aircraft. 

Oh, and I tend to buy old cars and keep them for some years, and not new ones expensively produced using huge amounts of energy!

That's me then, how about you?

That sounds quite similar to myself, but I dont call it reducing my carbon footprint, I call it being skint.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I'll stick with NASA for now 

Yes, a fair enough position BJ.

What is the answer to mitigating human involvement and continued behaviour in this change?

[/u]

Perhaps , as a start , those who vilify non believers and espouse the concept that man should minimise his , or her , carbon footprint should consider the hypocracy of driving around in a large V6  automatic saloon . 

But you see we may not be perfect, but I for me do the following to offset my V6 ownership.

I drive far less than ever before.  I recycle everything I can.  I use energy efficient light bulbs throughout my home, with all appliances fully turned off at night. The central heating thermostat is turned down to operate at a temperature as low as my health may take.  All radiators have thermostats.  My windows are double glazed.  I buy food in the least packaging possible, and cook on mass the meals I eat from fresh ingredients, and rarely have 'ready meals'.  I rarely take holidays abroad now using aircraft. 

Oh, and I tend to buy old cars and keep them for some years, and not new ones expensively produced using huge amounts of energy!

That's me then, how about you?

Yeah , I do all that too.......... 

Good, so there is two of us doing it............I mean the above!!

Seriously though I know that one day big petrol engines will be considered something our environment cannot take, but hopefully once I have become far too old to drive!! Until then I will do my bit, but hold on to big efficient engines:

I am hoping though that they come up with a great method of futuristic propulsion that is acceptable but can still whisk you up to high top speeds!! 8-) 8-)

[Kevin Wood]

Science : "any system of knowledge that is concerned with the physical world and its phenomena and that entails unbiased observations and systematic experimentation" (Encyclopaedia Britannica.)

So, not science, then. We're talking about politics, pure and simple. Science is about developing our understanding of that which we have observed to be true, not trying for various reasons to promote a theory that hasn't been backed up by proper observations.

Kevin

[Marks DTM Calib]

As I have commented before, the apparant rise in global temperatures is due to the lack of pirates:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=global+warming%2C+pirates&ctab=0&geo=all&date=mtd&sort=0

So its simple, its all the fault of pirates!

[Mysteryman]

As I have commented before, the apparant rise in global temperatures is due to the lack of pirates:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=global+warming%2C+pirates&ctab=0&geo=all&date=mtd&sort=0

So its simple, its all the fault of pirates!

Glad that's been explained

Can we move on now?

[Varche]

As I have commented before, the apparant rise in global temperatures is due to the lack of pirates:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=global+warming%2C+pirates&ctab=0&geo=all&date=mtd&sort=0

So its simple, its all the fault of pirates!

PMSL. Fantastic.

Now the Somalis have become more sophisticated by using caputered big vessels to capture "new meat" and also travelling much much further than ever before we can expect global warming to decrease. We are all saved for just a few £billions paid annually spread across the nations of the globe! That explains why nothing has been done to eradicate the pirates.

[Banjax]

Science : "any system of knowledge that is concerned with the physical world and its phenomena and that entails unbiased observations and systematic experimentation" (Encyclopaedia Britannica.)

So, not science, then. We're talking about politics, pure and simple. Science is about developing our understanding of that which we have observed to be true, not trying for various reasons to promote a theory that hasn't been backed up by proper observations.

Kevin

precisely, remove the politics  from the facts, the raw data doesn't know right-wing from tree-hugger 

[Nickbat]

Science : "any system of knowledge that is concerned with the physical world and its phenomena and that entails unbiased observations and systematic experimentation" (Encyclopaedia Britannica.)

So, not science, then. We're talking about politics, pure and simple. Science is about developing our understanding of that which we have observed to be true, not trying for various reasons to promote a theory that hasn't been backed up by proper observations.

Kevin

precisely, remove the politics  from the facts, the raw data doesn't know right-wing from tree-hugger 

I wish, but I'm not holding my breath. 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I'll stick with NASA for now 

Yes, a fair enough position BJ.

What is the answer to mitigating human involvement and continued behaviour in this change?

[/u]

Perhaps , as a start , those who vilify non believers and espouse the concept that man should minimise his , or her , carbon footprint should consider the hypocracy of driving around in a large V6  automatic saloon . 

But you see we may not be perfect, but I for me do the following to offset my V6 ownership.

I drive far less than ever before.  I recycle everything I can.  I use energy efficient light bulbs throughout my home, with all appliances fully turned off at night. The central heating thermostat is turned down to operate at a temperature as low as my health may take.  All radiators have thermostats.  My windows are double glazed.  I buy food in the least packaging possible, and cook on mass the meals I eat from fresh ingredients, and rarely have 'ready meals'.  I rarely take holidays abroad now using aircraft. 

Oh, and I tend to buy old cars and keep them for some years, and not new ones expensively produced using huge amounts of energy!

That's me then, how about you?

That sounds quite similar to myself, but I dont call it reducing my carbon footprint, I call it being skint.

Well Albs I must admit being skint does make it very easy for me to be fugal!!