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[alfie]

This goverment wants to get involved in another countries civil war yet again. Why, haven,t we not learnt the lessons of previous visits to this part of the world. It,s nothing to do with us,let them sort it out themselves.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

This goverment wants to get involved in another countries civil war yet again. Why, haven,t we not learnt the lessons of previous visits to this part of the world. It,s nothing to do with us,let them sort it out themselves.

Normally Alfie I would agree entirely.

However in this case the Libyan opposition, which include a number of Libyan Government officials including military representives, are inviting and pleading for outside help to put down a dictatorship that is harming its own citizens.  This is being organised through the UN, where there has been a unanimous vote to take action.

In the circumstances I believe it is right for 'us', which includes other Arab states, external to Libya to take action to avoid further heavy loss of human life. I often wish that such concerted action could have been available to bring a halt to the antics of Hitler and the Nazis in the 1930s!

Although al Qudafi, although completely bonkers and dangerous, is not comparable to Hitler, he is a very distinct threat to the region and the Libyan people.

[Dishevelled Den]

I'm 75% with Alfie on this although there are strategic reasons, aside from the humanitarian, for doing so - the stability of the oil supply and positioning of a regime sympathetic to the 'West' being but two.

I would be concerned about some EU leaders (including Cameron) and others attempting to adopt the role of 'Kingmaker' in this part of the region however.

Although I consider the UN to be a corrupt worthless organisation for the most part, if intervention is to be made in this, then it should be done wholly under the UN banner.

As Alfie rightly says - we really need to be aware of the fate of those who previously attempted to interfere in this part of the world.

[Banjax]

this "democracy virus"^tm spreading across the middle east is happening in an age where we have 24hr news, social networks, mobile phones - its being played out in front of the world - its no different from our own bloody history, we're just so much more interconnected globally today its difficult for us to keep out - we befriended this nutter, like we befriended Saddam et al - now right or wrong we've made our bed, we cant live without oil - every drop of which is more precious than any human blood, so, if necessary we'll storm in to secure it - we have no choice - we'll leave countries alone and mind our own business unless they have oil 

[Varche]

I'm 75% with Alfie on this although there are strategic reasons, aside from the humanitarian, for doing so - the stability of the oil supply and positioning of a regime sympathetic to the 'West' being but two.

I would be concerned about some EU leaders (including Cameron) and others attempting to adopt the role of 'Kingmaker' in this part of the region however.

Although I consider the UN to be a corrupt worthless organisation for the most part, if intervention is to be made in this, then it should be done wholly under the UN banner.

As Alfie rightly says - we really need to be aware of the fate of those who previously attempted to interfere in this part of the world.

Couldn't agree more. If the UN can agree some wordings and even actions then Britain can play its part along with every other country and not independently.  Course it won't happen, we just love to be in there . 

[cem_devecioglu]

* UN is worthless ? yes.. they watch slaughters if there is no economical profit..

* spending money for that region and messing with them ? bad idea.. who comes after the tyrant wont be so different..  may not bomb people but arrest them instead..

personally I would look what US wants to do..they are not after the beautiful eyes of people

[Nickbat]

Although I consider the UN to be a corrupt worthless organisation for the most part...

Zulu, how can you be so critical of that virtuous organisation? Why, as we speak, the UN's Human Rights Council is poised to adopt a report chock-full of praise for Libya's human rights record!! 

[/sarc off] 


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/28/council-poised-adopt-report-praising-libyas-human-rights-record/#

[Lazydocker]

Unfortunately someone does need to step in... The situation is very volatile and could easily spread into other UN Countries so the UN has to remove the nutter from power... Forcefully if necessary

I don't agree with our armed forces getting involved in any other countries battles but sometimes it is needed. Hopefully this will just be a quick removal of the leaders and then leave  :-/

[cem_devecioglu]

Unfortunately someone does need to step in... The situation is very volatile and could easily spread into other UN Countries so the UN has to remove the nutter from power... Forcefully if necessary

I don't agree with our armed forces getting involved in any other countries battles but sometimes it is needed. Hopefully this will just be a quick removal of the leaders and then leave  :-/

Chris , I'm sure you know how is sticky mud 

[Mysteryman]

Why don't we just take back our empire? The world ran much more smoothly when we were in charge.

[alfie]

It seems to me that the empire has turned the tables on us,and are now taking us over.

[cem_devecioglu]

Why don't we just take back our empire? The world ran much more smoothly when we were in charge.

your settlers/immigrants already have an empire and one is enough for world STMO

[alfie]

How can we get involved in any UN police action,we have no army navy air force,to speak of,unless we nip around to the local scrap yard to save a few tanks etc.
Will our PM call up the reserves and the TA,s,we just can,t do this kind of thing anymore.

[albitz]

The answer to that question may lie in Camerons statement this morning "I have spoken to the French pm"......iirc he devolved our defence to them a few months ago. How the mighty have fallen.

[alfie]

Well all their guns are brand new and never been fired.