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[Richie London]

Why apologise? Your opinion is your own as all those who post have their own too and no-one has the right to make you feel guilty over it. BigBrother does not yet rule this land although there are certain members who think they do. Names need not be mentioned but their posts tell us who they are.
No m8, if you have a point to make or an opinion to give it is still a free country with Freedom of Speech.
 

i have had to do a lot of hard thinking the last 4 weeks due to ill health i have suffered over the last yr and a half. i have offended many people with my views which i would not normally do. especially on a car forum where people come on here for advice and to help others. i do not think it is fair that because of the minority who are bad others should feel bad because of this. certain topics do express anger and resentment. we all like to blow a fuse now and then but there is a limit as to how far you should express your feelings on a public forum or any social networking site.

[TheBoy]

I have to go by my own experiences.  Personally, despite a fair few dealings with the police, both professionally and personally, I think the vast majority are decent folk, earning a crust like the rest of us.  There will be the odd bad egg, as recent events have shown.

I'll be honest, we have a Hobby Bobby around these parts who is a bit of a tit, power and all that, but he does a useful job of just being there come kicking out time.  Can't be easy.

In all walks of life, apart from the arrogant tossers who exist in all societys, if you treat people as you would like to be treated, and be prepared for others to make mistakes (we all do), then a lot of these confrontations will be little more than pleasant chats.

[Bionic]

Yep , TheBoy has hit the nail on the head and maybe, just maybe those members who believe they were insulted or were offended or just had a different opinion should take note and reign their comments in a bit.
Obviously if you cannot name names because the names are 'hidden' by the establishment and rules of secrecy or data protection then the comments and such like have by nature to be generalised ones.
It is a pity that occassionally some just jump on the forum soapbox for a ego massaging attention and spoil the debate for the rest. No wonder a tiny minority who are not forum administrators or moderators have so many posts credited to them. Their massive number of posts does not necessarily prove a large knowledge, only a desire to be heard and noticed and that is sad
Lets all get back to normality and the way the forums used to be. Lighthearted and interesting. A personal opinion is just that, a personal opinion and until the other person knows the history of the other then they cannot comment with any basis on fact.
We are all equalls on the forums (aren't we?) so let that be the rule again......and stop the personalised attacks on named members which a few now seem to make it their obligation to.
 ::)Question! (Moderators posts excluded)
Does the number of posts indicate a reliable and wise knowledge or just a need to be noticed?
If its the latter then they should get a life

[Lazydocker]

::)Question! (Moderators posts excluded)
Does the number of posts indicate a reliable and wise knowledge or just a need to be noticed?
If its the latter then they should get a life

Or perhaps that they are just active members of the forum and have been for some time

Anyway... As you said, there is no need for personal attacks. I have had to deal with the police a lot in the past (in a work capacity) at a variety of vehicle related incidents ranging from a stolen moped to a car used as a murder weapon I have also been stopped by them plenty of times, which is inevitable when you drive for a living, and have always treated them politely and with respect. It has served me well as on more than one occasion the officer has used some common sense and given me a "telling off" instead of a ticket (That includes at least one 3 figure speed stop in the middle of the night )

[trainmanone]

getting back to the op, i believe that any emergency vehicle displaying blues and twos CAN NOT force or bully an other vehicle to cross a stop line a a set of red lights and should turn off siren /two tones until the lights change or the vehicle in front can move out of the way without contravening the highway code/road traffic act   

[tigers_gonads]

Had a chat with a traffic copper I know about this thread last night.

Apparently the word is that they can use "blues and two's" if they are on "official business"

When I asked him if that means whenever they wear the uniform, he just smiled and said it was a perk of the job but some of the younger ( less experienced ) coppers take it to the extreem 

He also said that under NO circumstances should you put your self or car in a dangerious situation regardless of who is behind you.
If you do then its YOU who is comiting the offence.

[TheBoy]

getting back to the op, i believe that any emergency vehicle displaying blues and twos CAN NOT force or bully an other vehicle to cross a stop line a a set of red lights and should turn off siren /two tones until the lights change or the vehicle in front can move out of the way without contravening the highway code/road traffic act   

Common sense has to prevail.

If the copper behind has all his gadgets on, then we must assume its an emergency call, not breakfast time. Thats not really open for debate. I'm sure we have all heard stories from a stranger down the pub who's mum's dog's sisters owner's brother's wife heard from another bloke in the pub that a copper used blues and twos to fetch doughnuts. But we have to take it on face value that its an emergency.

Based on that, if it is safe to jump (completely, or just edge forward enough) the lights, then I think it would be unfortunate to get stopped for that - I certainly never have, even if I've had to stop traffic coming around the roundabout (who would have had to stop for police anyway).  In return, if there is sod all I can do, I expect the police not to force me out of the way (not to say turn siren off though - maybe the person in front of me needs to move).




But, it seems we will never get everyone to agree, either due to a local bad apple plod, a 3rd hand story from the bloke in the pub, an incorrect attitude towards authority or a host of other reasons.  So I'm locking, as this thread is going nowhere constructive.  If you have a problem with that, feel free to send me a PM, rather than start a tedious 'lets analyse that locked thread' type thread.