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feeutfo

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Winter tyres
« on: 12 September 2010, 17:54:22 »

Afaik know as a rule we all use summer tyres all year round in the uk. At least I don't know anyone down here in the sarf that swaps to winter or all season tyres anyway.

Thing is last winter was quite severe, snow blocking the m4 and other motorways etc, winter tyres won't stop that but they may keep me on the road and able to stop in snow/ice. I nearly stacked it a couple of times.

Any experience of winter or all season tyres on the forum....?

Ta
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Re: Winter tyres
« Reply #1 on: 12 September 2010, 17:57:03 »

Your obviously thinking down the same lines as I am.

Problem I have is that if I'm only going to use them for at most two months of the year I don't really want to pay too much..... But as they are the only thing between the car and the road I know I should pay for quality ones.
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Re: Winter tyres
« Reply #2 on: 12 September 2010, 18:13:05 »

Yours and Gaffers posts reminded me of last winter, and I do have a spare set of wheels.

....but then if all we get is rain it will be a waist of money anyway....won't it?

I was on a motorway slip road in the slush, using the left lane as the right lane was a mess. Car came round me like I was stood still, through the slush and everything. I remember thinking he must have full wets or winter tyres on, koz my sc3's set to to low psi where twitching around as it was.
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Re: Winter tyres
« Reply #3 on: 12 September 2010, 18:23:32 »

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Yours and Gaffers posts reminded me of last winter, and I do have a spare set of wheels.

....but then if all we get is rain it will be a waist of money anyway....won't it?

I was on a motorway slip road in the slush, using the left lane as the right lane was a mess. Car came round me like I was stood still, through the slush and everything. I remember thinking he must have full wets or winter tyres on, koz my sc3's set to to low psi where twitching around as it was.

Why did you have the tyres underinflated? That would give you an even wider, longer contact patch when what you really want is a narrower shorter contact patch to distribute the weight of the car over the smallest possible area?
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Re: Winter tyres
« Reply #4 on: 12 September 2010, 18:42:28 »

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Yours and Gaffers posts reminded me of last winter, and I do have a spare set of wheels.

....but then if all we get is rain it will be a waist of money anyway....won't it?

I was on a motorway slip road in the slush, using the left lane as the right lane was a mess. Car came round me like I was stood still, through the slush and everything. I remember thinking he must have full wets or winter tyres on, koz my sc3's set to to low psi where twitching around as it was.

Why did you have the tyres underinflated? That would give you an even wider, longer contact patch when what you really want is a narrower shorter contact patch to distribute the weight of the car over the smallest possible area?

What makes you think that a narrow & thus smaller tread contact on the road is better in slippery conditions?
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Re: Winter tyres
« Reply #5 on: 12 September 2010, 18:58:22 »

Pretty sure Debs swaps summer and winter tyres - hardly suprising where she is, she needs em....

may be able to give you some pointers.

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Re: Winter tyres
« Reply #6 on: 12 September 2010, 19:20:32 »

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Afaik know as a rule we all use summer tyres all year round in the uk. At least I don't know anyone down here in the sarf that swaps to winter or all season tyres anyway.

Thing is last winter was quite severe, snow blocking the m4 and other motorways etc, winter tyres won't stop that but they may keep me on the road and able to stop in snow/ice. I nearly stacked it a couple of times.

Any experience of winter or all season tyres on the forum....?

Ta

yes.. definitely very different.. imo using summer tires in winter means risking your life ..

check the video
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/videoDisplay.jsp?ttid=116
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Re: Winter tyres
« Reply #7 on: 12 September 2010, 19:24:56 »

I know in some EU contries, winter wheels are fitted. Normally 15'' steels, not sure what tyres though. I also saw around here when the snow was about last time, some vehicles I regularly see had steel wheels on place of the standard alloys. Whether that was to protect the original alloys I don't know.

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Re: Winter tyres
« Reply #8 on: 12 September 2010, 19:28:45 »

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Yours and Gaffers posts reminded me of last winter, and I do have a spare set of wheels.

....but then if all we get is rain it will be a waist of money anyway....won't it?

I was on a motorway slip road in the slush, using the left lane as the right lane was a mess. Car came round me like I was stood still, through the slush and everything. I remember thinking he must have full wets or winter tyres on, koz my sc3's set to to low psi where twitching around as it was.

Why did you have the tyres underinflated? That would give you an even wider, longer contact patch when what you really want is a narrower shorter contact patch to distribute the weight of the car over the smallest possible area?

What makes you think that a narrow & thus smaller tread contact on the road is better in slippery conditions?

Ever looked at the width of the tyres rally cars run in the snow or mud vs. tarmac?

You want a tyre that has a small enough contact patch to 'sink' through the slush to the road, not a large one that will float over the top.

Same concept as boats.. ice skates.. etc.
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Re: Winter tyres
« Reply #9 on: 12 September 2010, 19:31:32 »

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Yours and Gaffers posts reminded me of last winter, and I do have a spare set of wheels.

....but then if all we get is rain it will be a waist of money anyway....won't it?

I was on a motorway slip road in the slush, using the left lane as the right lane was a mess. Car came round me like I was stood still, through the slush and everything. I remember thinking he must have full wets or winter tyres on, koz my sc3's set to to low psi where twitching around as it was.

Why did you have the tyres underinflated? That would give you an even wider, longer contact patch when what you really want is a narrower shorter contact patch to distribute the weight of the car over the smallest possible area?

What makes you think that a narrow & thus smaller tread contact on the road is better in slippery conditions?

Ever looked at the width of the tyres rally cars run in the snow or mud vs. tarmac?

You want a tyre that has a small enough contact patch to 'sink' through the slush to the road, not a large one that will float over the top.

Same concept as boats.. ice skates.. etc.

yep.. all tire shops advice narrower profile tires for snow..
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Re: Winter tyres
« Reply #10 on: 12 September 2010, 19:44:42 »

Why not get a set of these :-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200432205947&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

probably  much cheaper than a set of tyres, will keep you moving in the snow and you only fit them when there's snow on the ground. :y
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Re: Winter tyres
« Reply #11 on: 12 September 2010, 20:25:42 »

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Yours and Gaffers posts reminded me of last winter, and I do have a spare set of wheels.

....but then if all we get is rain it will be a waist of money anyway....won't it?

I was on a motorway slip road in the slush, using the left lane as the right lane was a mess. Car came round me like I was stood still, through the slush and everything. I remember thinking he must have full wets or winter tyres on, koz my sc3's set to to low psi where twitching around as it was.

Why did you have the tyres underinflated? That would give you an even wider, longer contact patch when what you really want is a narrower shorter contact patch to distribute the weight of the car over the smallest possible area?

What makes you think that a narrow & thus smaller tread contact on the road is better in slippery conditions?

Ever looked at the width of the tyres rally cars run in the snow or mud vs. tarmac?

You want a tyre that has a small enough contact patch to 'sink' through the slush to the road, not a large one that will float over the top.

Same concept as boats.. ice skates.. etc.

yep.. all tire shops advice narrower profile tires for snow..
They are 245 40 18. I can't see 4 psi making much odds to the contact patch size, but will get a bit more heat in the tyre when does touch Tarmac...for what it's worth in those temperatures. Some weight in the boot does help though...
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Re: Winter tyres
« Reply #12 on: 12 September 2010, 20:27:20 »

just a second guys....YOU DON'T USE WINTER TYRES?
i was always under impression that there is a lot of snow in UK during the winter...

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Re: Winter tyres
« Reply #13 on: 12 September 2010, 20:38:05 »

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just a second guys....YOU DON'T USE WINTER TYRES?
i was always under impression that there is a lot of snow in UK during the winter...

Last winter was exceptional. Hence the question. Winter tyres rarely used I think it's fair to say.

Thing is I don't remember snow in the south of the uk for several years otherwise...?

Remote high ground would be different I guess, but we rely on grit spreaders for the rare occasions we get snow of any significance.
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Re: Winter tyres
« Reply #14 on: 12 September 2010, 20:40:41 »

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just a second guys....YOU DON'T USE WINTER TYRES?
i was always under impression that there is a lot of snow in UK during the winter...

A lot of rain yes, snow, not as much, it's quite rare to get heavy snow fall here.
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