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Re: Here we go again...
« Reply #15 on: 08 October 2010, 23:06:24 »

Well, it's not as bad as I feared but it is going to be a fair old repair job:

Plastic bumper knackered. Got a dent the size and depth of a fist in it.
Light cluster broken (Police were kind enough to point out that it might be an offence to drive it if it's showing white light >:().
Something on the bottom of the flat bed has gone across the top of the boot and onto the rear wing, creasing it and taking it down to bare metal.

Insurance company were good. They reckon the 3rd party vehicle is insured and it will be possible to claim with or without the owner's cooperation with the weight of a witness, Police involvement and potentially some CCTV.

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« Reply #16 on: 08 October 2010, 23:43:08 »

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Well, it's not as bad as I feared but it is going to be a fair old repair job:

Plastic bumper knackered. Got a dent the size and depth of a fist in it.
Light cluster broken (Police were kind enough to point out that it might be an offence to drive it if it's showing white light >:().
Something on the bottom of the flat bed has gone across the top of the boot and onto the rear wing, creasing it and taking it down to bare metal.

Insurance company were good. They reckon the 3rd party vehicle is insured and it will be possible to claim with or without the owner's cooperation with the weight of a witness, Police involvement and potentially some CCTV.

Kevin
Was hoping that should be the case. Police must peruse it, leaving the scene and all that.
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Re: Here we go again...
« Reply #17 on: 08 October 2010, 23:50:20 »

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Was hoping that should be the case. Police must peruse it, leaving the scene and all that.

Would have thought so, but the impression Emma came away with was that they were happy he wasn't driving uninsured so no further action. >:(

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Re: Here we go again...
« Reply #18 on: 08 October 2010, 23:56:36 »

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Was hoping that should be the case. Police must peruse it, leaving the scene and all that.

Would have thought so, but the impression Emma came away with was that they were happy he wasn't driving uninsured so no further action. >:(

Kevin

Main thrust of Police 'argument' is the fact its non injury.

As already said, persue with Police (read that as insist...) as regards the hit and run element, citing witnesses etc.  Refer back to the officers shoulder number you initially noted (didn't you) when you first reported the matter and ask/insist via a 'supervisory officer' (sgt or above) what current state of play is so that you can advise your insurance company accordingly.

Might not achieve that much, TBH, but certainly paves the way for your insurance company to march through.

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Re: Here we go again...
« Reply #19 on: 09 October 2010, 00:01:52 »

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Main thrust of Police 'argument' is the fact its non injury.

I guess so. Someone's probably lying in a hospital bed somewhere, and more deserving of their time, however irritating this idiot escaping justice might appear. :(

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« Reply #20 on: 09 October 2010, 00:01:59 »

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Was hoping that should be the case. Police must peruse it, leaving the scene and all that.

Would have thought so, but the impression Emma came away with was that they were happy he wasn't driving uninsured so no further action. >:(

Kevin
Gaaaw I might be making a rather strong complaint about that. Wile on one hand nobody was injured and no road furniture damaged, the other criteria for no police involvement is details must be exchanged. Every time I ring em to report an incident that's what they say....unless they forgot the part that pikeys are exempt of course.  >:( 

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Re: Here we go again...
« Reply #21 on: 09 October 2010, 00:29:36 »

sorry to hear of this aggravation - Mrs KW is such a nice lady and not deserving of this inconvenience



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Re: Here we go again...
« Reply #22 on: 09 October 2010, 00:49:14 »

KW, I will have a word with swmbo in the morning 'cos she's on night shift **** ***** **** stuck at a crime scene (whoops...) and not answering my texts... nothing new tho  ;D ;)

Gixer is right about the fail to stop, exchange of details etc. Can't remember the offence, think its Section 172 of the RTA but will ask swmbo...

Good news is... provided incident reported to police, VRN known (even if false plates) Mrs KW is totally covered by these guy's http://www.mib.org.uk/Frequently+Asked+Questions/en/Default.htm She will get substantial payout even if driver is untraceable  :y

PM me tomorrow if you need any tips  ;)
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Re: Here we go again...
« Reply #23 on: 09 October 2010, 06:54:22 »

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Main thrust of Police 'argument' is the fact its non injury.

I guess so. Someone's probably lying in a hospital bed somewhere, and more deserving of their time, however irritating this idiot escaping justice might appear. :(

Kevin

I'd go along with that except this guy has proved his colours by
1. driving into your car
2. scarpering

Next time he may be the cause of the the person being in the hospital bed - he clearly doesn't give a ****

Anyway great to hear you're covered so give or take some aggro' you'll get paid out  :) :)

Been told I'll be waiting 18 months to get paid out by the Serbian who bumped my car in a car park - but at least he owned up and left his details.
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« Reply #24 on: 09 October 2010, 07:59:30 »

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so some nob end backs into your wife's car and she gets a verbal off the police?? how the hell does that work? i wonder sometimes whos side the police are really on ::)
21st century policing - its a bit different from what us stupid people fink it oughta be. ;) If we would just take the time to study for a degree in sociology, we would be singing from the same hymnsheet as they are. ::)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1318499/Doggers-indulging-outdoor-sex-protected-victimisation.html
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« Reply #25 on: 09 October 2010, 08:59:29 »

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so some nob end backs into your wife's car and she gets a verbal off the police?? how the hell does that work? i wonder sometimes whos side the police are really on ::)
21st century policing - its a bit different from what us stupid people fink it oughta be. ;) If we would just take the time to study for a degree in sociology, we would be singing from the same hymnsheet as they are. ::)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1318499/Doggers-indulging-outdoor-sex-protected-victimisation.html

I wouldn't say verbal, but certainly an attitude of "while you're here let's see if we can pin anything on you". Might be seen as proactive, perhaps, but hardly an approach that's going to win the "hearts and minds" of the public, especially when they waste time making you jump through hoops then don't follow up on the real issue. >:(

After all, the type of person who doesn't have his affairs in order and above-board isn't going to cross their threshold in the first place.

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« Reply #26 on: 09 October 2010, 10:06:31 »

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so some nob end backs into your wife's car and she gets a verbal off the police?? how the hell does that work? i wonder sometimes whos side the police are really on ::)
21st century policing - its a bit different from what us stupid people fink it oughta be. ;) If we would just take the time to study for a degree in sociology, we would be singing from the same hymnsheet as they are. ::)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1318499/Doggers-indulging-outdoor-sex-protected-victimisation.html

I wouldn't say verbal, but certainly an attitude of "while you're here let's see if we can pin anything on you". Might be seen as proactive, perhaps, but hardly an approach that's going to win the "hearts and minds" of the public, especially when they waste time making you jump through hoops then don't follow up on the real issue. >:(

After all, the type of person who doesn't have his affairs in order and above-board isn't going to cross their threshold in the first place.

Kevin


That's why I said that this must be complained about at the relevant station.

There seems to have been a remarkable tendency for police management to attempt to re-orient the very raison d'être for the existence of the police force.

This move away from traditional policing isn't necessarily a good thing (while in some cases necessary) as the compact between police and public has been all but lost to policing by statistic and remote technology.

The police force exists to uphold the law, apprehend wrongdoers, to ensure the safety of the public and to protect property.  The fact that a police officer seems disinclined to do some of these things in this case is worthy of investigation.

The push by the last government towards the crime quota system all but handed police management a blank cheque:  Rather than quantifying the efficiency of various forces, this merely created a bankruptcy of public confidence in the police force as a result of the disinclination in many officers to get off their arses and do the job they're actually paid for.

21st. century policing depends on technology and new measures to match changing crime patterns, but to abandon the basic tenet  of the police officer being there to offer positive assistance to a member of the public in need merely asks for trouble. 
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« Reply #27 on: 09 October 2010, 11:50:09 »

a local do as you likey, ran over a kid, and ran off, in court last week his family were heckling and taunting the kids parents.

they have no shame.
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« Reply #29 on: 09 October 2010, 13:33:48 »

Sorry to hear this Kev, at least Mrs KW is physically ok  :y

The police in Hampshire are useless, three times I have reported some quite serious anti-social and dangerous driving and not once were they followed up.  If it wont bump up their quotas then it aint 'worth' their time.  >:(

On the issue of HA, there is an ex-member I am still in contact with who has contacts there.  I think you know who I am talking about  :y

And ref the family heckling the victim's parents in court, we had exactly the same with the families of the guys who killed my bro.  They were racing and ran over him while he was cycling in the same direction.  It was very bad for my younger brother who was in the same class as one of them and the school part only stopped following some physical intervention by yours truely.   Scum is far too weak an expression for these folk  >:(
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