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Re: Will the Omega be a classic?
« Reply #15 on: 09 October 2010, 17:51:27 »

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No, too many made

So where exactly does quantity come into the equation?

When does quantity not come into a classic equation?

Car needs to be rare / not common for it to be considered a classic, or its not a classic is it?

Too many Omegas are around, they are a bland, forgettable saloon saloon to most.

When you've lived a while longer, you'll be able to comment on the past.
There's been many bland & forgettable cars that have become classics. Lizzie's just mentioned only a few

Lizzie G.W.B.B= gob working before brain. Not you :)

Very nice of you to add that extra bit at the end, very relevant.

A forum is about opinions, so why bring insults into it? The Omega won't be become a classic

It's not an insult ;)
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Re: Will the Omega be a classic?
« Reply #16 on: 09 October 2010, 17:57:40 »

I was always under the impression the term "classic" was in regards to the age of the vehicle and the fact that its still on the road or desirable, not that there are x amount of millions of them made.

for example there are 3 omegas on the road up where i am at the moment, making them rare but not classic, yet.

will see how many are on the roads in 20 yrs time. then we wil see if they are worthy of the "classic" status.

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Re: Will the Omega be a classic?
« Reply #17 on: 09 October 2010, 18:00:14 »

In 20 years time yes, Senators will be in about 10
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Re: Will the Omega be a classic?
« Reply #18 on: 09 October 2010, 18:00:20 »

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No, too many made

So where exactly does quantity come into the equation?

When does quantity not come into a classic equation?

Car needs to be rare / not common for it to be considered a classic, or its not a classic is it?

Too many Omegas are around, they are a bland, forgettable saloon saloon to most.

Never does or has.

As a rule of thumb its a car that is 25+ years old.

An antique car is 45+ years.

So no, totaly wrong, numbers have bugger all to do with it  :y
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Re: Will the Omega be a classic?
« Reply #19 on: 09 October 2010, 18:04:27 »

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It may take a few years but why not?
they are different,

I mean morris marinas are often called classic ;D


Yep, and the Allegro!! :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;)


I liked them - along with the Maxi and the Princess. :-* :-* :y
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Re: Will the Omega be a classic?
« Reply #20 on: 09 October 2010, 18:05:04 »

I don't think there's much chance of the Omega becoming anything more than a minor or niche classic

- no competition history
- relatively few sold
- no perceived 'halo' model (Lotus Carlton or equivalent)
- was not a class leader or definer (we might feel it should have been but that's another story

So no doubt some and hopefully many will survive but they will only be sought after by a few, maybe for sentimental reasons.

Pity but there it is...

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Re: Will the Omega be a classic?
« Reply #21 on: 09 October 2010, 18:08:39 »

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There were 1.3 million Morris Minors produced in the 23 years of it production in various guises. There are less than 11,000 left in the UK and  ......

...... and 16 of them were driving in convoy (excepting the prat in a 4x4 that split them up :-?) along Blackpool front on Monday evening. Travellers, drop heads & 'ordinay' saloons, both split screen & later cars  :y  :y  :y A good turn out!  ;)
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Re: Will the Omega be a classic?
« Reply #22 on: 09 October 2010, 18:12:56 »

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No, too many made

So where exactly does quantity come into the equation?

When does quantity not come into a classic equation?

Car needs to be rare / not common for it to be considered a classic, or its not a classic is it?

Too many Omegas are around, they are a bland, forgettable saloon saloon to most.

Never does or has.

As a rule of thumb its a car that is 25+ years old.

An antique car is 45+ years.

So no, totaly wrong, numbers have bugger all to do with it  :y

Disagree, numbers have everything to do with it.

They only reason they become classics at 25 years, is because they are rare. Been destroyed over the years from rust, accidents and replacement models.

If every single Jag E Type was still on the road that were built, would they be considered classics?

Put it this way... Great Western's HST Fleet is 25 years old, are they considered Classic? No, they are common as muck on that line. steam train from the same era though, which no longer runs main line commuter services, is considered 'classic'


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Re: Will the Omega be a classic?
« Reply #23 on: 09 October 2010, 18:16:08 »

...................and for all us MM fans, look at this picture, with all for sale :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*:


To be found at   http://www.charleswaresmorrisminorcentre.co.uk/


I know of another MM restorer and retailer in Bath that I used to pass regularly 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
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Lizzie_Zoom

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« Reply #24 on: 09 October 2010, 18:19:05 »

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No, too many made

So where exactly does quantity come into the equation?

When does quantity not come into a classic equation?

Car needs to be rare / not common for it to be considered a classic, or its not a classic is it?

Too many Omegas are around, they are a bland, forgettable saloon saloon to most.

Never does or has.

As a rule of thumb its a car that is 25+ years old.

An antique car is 45+ years.

So no, totaly wrong, numbers have bugger all to do with it  :y

Disagree, numbers have everything to do with it.

They only reason they become classics at 25 years, is because they are rare. Been destroyed over the years from rust, accidents and replacement models.

If every single Jag E Type was still on the road that were built, would they be considered classics?

Put it this way... Great Western's HST Fleet is 25 years old, are they considered Classic? No, they are common as muck on that line. steam train from the same era though, which no longer runs main line commuter services, is considered 'classic'




Sorry Tunnie, but HST's are some way after the end of BR steam, but rest assured will become classics in museums one day as the "common as muck" Black Fives are now!!
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Re: Will the Omega be a classic?
« Reply #25 on: 09 October 2010, 18:20:57 »

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Sorry Tunnie, but HST's are some way after the end of BR steam, but rest assured will become classics in museums one day as the "common as muck" Black Fives are now!!

Exactly my point, they are 25 years old now, but not considered classic because they are in full service, and loads of them are about  ;)
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Re: Will the Omega be a classic?
« Reply #26 on: 09 October 2010, 18:24:14 »

The remainders will be classics due to

1) Scrapping due to engine knicking to put into turdmobiles

2) Last of V cars

3) Simply not that many left - will be classics in same way Rover SD1 V8s are
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Lizzie_Zoom

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« Reply #27 on: 09 October 2010, 18:26:53 »

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Sorry Tunnie, but HST's are some way after the end of BR steam, but rest assured will become classics in museums one day as the "common as muck" Black Fives are now!!

Exactly my point, they are 25 years old now, but not considered classic because they are in full service, and loads of them are about  ;)

OK Tunnie, but then how and why has your "quantity" statement got anything to do with that? 

You are now agreeing that time is the crucial factor in "classic" status, not numbers built :D :D ;) ;) 
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Re: Will the Omega be a classic?
« Reply #28 on: 09 October 2010, 18:27:43 »

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The remainders will be classics due to

1) Scrapping due to engine knicking to put into turdmobiles

2) Last of V cars

3) Simply not that many left - will be classics in same way Rover SD1 V8s are

If there was a Lotus Carlton version, or they made the V8 version yes. But can't see it happening, too many V6 cars still being made to be considered 'last of the Vs'

Something that would become a classic, Monaro/VXR8
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Re: Will the Omega be a classic?
« Reply #29 on: 09 October 2010, 18:33:05 »

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Sorry Tunnie, but HST's are some way after the end of BR steam, but rest assured will become classics in museums one day as the "common as muck" Black Fives are now!!

Exactly my point, they are 25 years old now, but not considered classic because they are in full service, and loads of them are about  ;)

OK Tunnie, but then how and why has your "quantity" statement got anything to do with that? 

You are now agreeing that time is the crucial factor in "classic" status :D :D ;) ;) 

Ah but does it? Lotus Carlton is a classic, thats not 25 years old.

Jaguar XJ220 again, not 25 years old, but a classic.

Quantity is the crucial factor, and thanks to Omega build, there will be too many about in decades to come to stop it become a classic. Rover SD1's and such, are classics, cause they fell apart days out of the factory, and the are rare!
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