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[Lizzie_Zoom]

Its all good harmless fun at the end of the day. There has always been banter regards steam engines etc

Dead right!!

If anyone mixes in steam preservation groups and societies as I do they soon find out how diverse the people and their opinions are on GWR vs. LMS vs. SR vs. LNER, Bulleid Merchant Navies vs. Gresley A4's vs. Stanier's Coronation Class, the merits or not of British, LMS, Garrets, etc, etc, etc!!!

It is such fun to be involved in and read about!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

[Martin_1962]

Oh...I thought I had put my foot in it! My grandad was a driver in steam days (later moving on to modern traction before retirement) and he never liked them. The same as lot of ex br steam drivers I work with now! Oh well everyone is different and I don't wish to start an argument. I have removed that from my post now anyway!

I work for Network rail and I am a volunteer on a steam railway by the way as well as loving cars etc.

What region did he drive for?

Was he a lover of all products Swindon?

GWR/Western region. He was at stafford road so yes loved all things from Swindon....like me

Railway companyism comes into this a lot

What railway are you involved with?

[Martin_1962]

Its all good harmless fun at the end of the day. There has always been banter regards steam engines etc

Dead right!!

If anyone mixes in steam preservation groups and societies as I do they soon find out how diverse the people and their opinions are on GWR vs. LMS vs. SR vs. LNER, Bulleid Merchant Navies vs. Gresley A4's vs. Stanier's Coronation Class, the merits or not of British, LMS, Garrets, etc, etc, etc!!!

It is such fun to be involved in and read about!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

And it carries on into the Diesel era, and example woutd be Mark and me with Type 4s.

Mark is a fan of 47s and I am a fan of 50s, quite a few are fans of Westerns.

Now I have had some spectacular runs behind a 50, I think I managed to get a ride behind one of th euprated experiments - 1 fifty was temporary rauunig at 3200bhp or 3150bhp (30 odd years ago)

[TheBoy]

So, to save people reading 7 pages, in summary...

1) Most think Omega will not become a classic
2) Tunnie thinks the VXR8 will become a classic
3) Lizzie Zoom thinks some old steamer is a classic
4) Marks DTM Calibra thinks a Type 47 Loco is a classic
5) TheBoy agrees with 1) but disagrees with 2),3),4)

[albitz]

I thank you. ........I also agree on points 1 - 4.

I think some people are confusing "classic" with "A classic which is (or will be )sought after/desirable/valuable etc. A car becomes a classic when it reaches a certain age - simples.

[omegaman2]

what do you mean will it
it already is

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Its all good harmless fun at the end of the day. There has always been banter regards steam engines etc

Dead right!!

If anyone mixes in steam preservation groups and societies as I do they soon find out how diverse the people and their opinions are on GWR vs. LMS vs. SR vs. LNER, Bulleid Merchant Navies vs. Gresley A4's vs. Stanier's Coronation Class, the merits or not of British, LMS, Garrets, etc, etc, etc!!!

It is such fun to be involved in and read about!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

And it carries on into the Diesel era, and example woutd be Mark and me with Type 4s.

Mark is a fan of 47s and I am a fan of 50s, quite a few are fans of Westerns.

Now I have had some spectacular runs behind a 50, I think I managed to get a ride behind one of th euprated experiments - 1 fifty was temporary rauunig at 3200bhp or 3150bhp (30 odd years ago)

Believe it or not Martin I am a fan of all three!!

I have ridden behind a Western (and Warship), 47, but never behind a 50.  The latter I used to admire when they came through Bristol Temple Meads in the 80s.  Most impressive sound! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

[Martin_1962]

There are some good shots on Youtube of a 50 and Deltic double heading

[aaronjb]

So, to save people reading 7 pages, in summary...

1) Most think Omega will not become a classic
2) Tunnie thinks the VXR8 will become a classic
3) Lizzie Zoom thinks some old steamer is a classic
4) Marks DTM Calibra thinks a Type 47 Loco is a classic
5) TheBoy agrees with 1) but disagrees with 2),3),4)

Nice summary there TB

There are some good shots on Youtube of a 50 and Deltic double heading

Well that just sounds like something pornographic..

[albitz]

 have a working steam railway/ museum 2 miles to the east of me and another 6 miles to the west. I visited each of them once about 20 years ago out of curiosity, never been back since.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

There are some good shots on Youtube of a 50 and Deltic double heading

Now you are talking classics Martin, with even hardened Steam fanatics like me lovvvvvving them!! 8-) 8-) 8-)

These are the classics of today (and turn your sound FULL up!!!):
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzgmuI4tGhs&feature=related[/media]

 

The Omega has a long way to go before it can be the car equivilant of this classic railway icon! 

[pjd7325]

Oh...I thought I had put my foot in it! My grandad was a driver in steam days (later moving on to modern traction before retirement) and he never liked them. The same as lot of ex br steam drivers I work with now! Oh well everyone is different and I don't wish to start an argument. I have removed that from my post now anyway!

I work for Network rail and I am a volunteer on a steam railway by the way as well as loving cars etc.

What region did he drive for?

Was he a lover of all products Swindon?

GWR/Western region. He was at stafford road so yes loved all things from Swindon....like me

Railway companyism comes into this a lot

What railway are you involved with?

Yes just a bit I don't mind the black 5's I prefer the unique stephensons valve geared one though.

Involved with the SVR and have been for the past 18 years or so.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Oh...I thought I had put my foot in it! My grandad was a driver in steam days (later moving on to modern traction before retirement) and he never liked them. The same as lot of ex br steam drivers I work with now! Oh well everyone is different and I don't wish to start an argument. I have removed that from my post now anyway!

I work for Network rail and I am a volunteer on a steam railway by the way as well as loving cars etc.

What region did he drive for?

Was he a lover of all products Swindon?

GWR/Western region. He was at stafford road so yes loved all things from Swindon....like me

Railway companyism comes into this a lot

What railway are you involved with?

Yes just a bit I don't mind the black 5's I prefer the unique stephensons valve geared one though.

Involved with the SVR and have been for the past 18 years or so.

Yes, No. 4767, built at Crewe with outside Stephenso link motion, along with Timken roller bearings and double blastpipe and chimney   He also developed the Caprotti geared Black Fives under BR ownership, M4748- 44757 (Crewe), 44738-44747(Crewe), and 44686-44687 (Horwich).

One of a number of experimental Black Five engines by H.G. Ivatt whilst still at the LMS.  He of course went on into BR days to produce the Standard 5, which was a great development of Stanier's original product.


NB For those who wish to know, the Walschaert, Stephenson,  and the unique Bulleid Chain valve drive system, all involve interconnected reciprocating valve gears, driving valve spindles, for admission, expansion, exhaust and compression, acting together. 

With Caprotti valve gearing it is all done by cams (very modern and car like) and rotating shafts, to put it simply.

Strangely the Caprotti valve gear never became widespread in British railway engineering.

[Martin_1962]

I was a member of GWR for years 1981 on but credit crunch meant it was one of the first things to go.

I have loads of video of the GWR


For you some SVR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yju-s2ZpH-w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdVtyEQKDrI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yawvApMIg-o

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I was a member of GWR for years 1981 on but credit crunch meant it was one of the first things to go.

I have loads of video of the GWR


For you some SVR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yju-s2ZpH-w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdVtyEQKDrI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yawvApMIg-o

Really great videos there Martin!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

Outside of the MHR, I have always held the SVR in the highest esteem.  In fact it was the steam railway that in 1976 reminded me, and my ex, of what live steam was like!!  We wanted more, and thus joined the Mid Hants Railway! 8-)