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turboteeth

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im confused
« on: 07 November 2010, 14:54:27 »

i have a 2.5 omega cdx which i thought was a facelift untill i read this
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1266867411
now im like  :-/
i thought that a carlton was omega A
omega was omega B with a pre and a facelift
and the newest omega was omega C

now im like  :-?
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Re: im confused
« Reply #1 on: 07 November 2010, 15:08:39 »

If it looks like the car in the post you referred to, then it is a facelift, if externally it looks like an older model it will either be a mini facelift (which has improvements inside, such as fold down solid rear headrests) or pre facelift.  The easiest way to notice the difference is the bonnet facelift conmboned bonnet and grill...

Facelift - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2000-Vauxhall-Opel-Omega-Red-3-0-V6-24v-auto-/130445382539?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1e5f26938b

Mini FL/ Pre FL - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1998-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-ELITE-2-5-V6-AUTO-GOLD-T-T-/230547222324?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item35adaf6f34
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Re: im confused
« Reply #2 on: 07 November 2010, 15:10:10 »

No such thing as an Omega C.
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Re: im confused
« Reply #3 on: 07 November 2010, 15:19:13 »

That guide only deals with the DBW engines, it doesn't include any data on the early facelifts with the 2.0, 2.5 or 3.0.
If your Omega looks like the one's pictured in the guide both internally and externally then it is a facelift  :y
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Re: im confused
« Reply #4 on: 07 November 2010, 15:25:13 »

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i have a 2.5 omega cdx which i thought was a facelift untill i read this
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1266867411
now im like  :-/
i thought that a carlton was omega A
omega was omega B with a pre and a facelift
and the newest omega was omega C

now im like  :-?

Oh, tell me about it!

I always thought that the Omega 'facelift' (which is, incidentally a term used across the industry, but totally unofficial) was called the 'C', but please god, dont call it that on here, you'll get corrected like mad!

The 'B' is the model made from 1994-2003 (but sold upto 2004, so did it have a 9 or ten year run? Thats another story!)

As you rightly say the 'A' is what we all know and love the Carlton.

However, as around 45% of my life is spend mis-typing fcaelift or minni-flacelift or faclirt (well, you know what I mean) I suggested a while back that despite it being not technically correct, how about we all just refer to the facelift as the 'C'? the pre-facelift as the 'B' This would eliminate all the confusion as there's constantly people selling various parts, or asking for help on various cars like

"For sale Omega B MV6 spoiler 20quid"
"Which car mate?"
"B"
"Yeah but which, facelift and pre-faceflit are different"
"Sorry mate, it's pre-facelft"
"Oh, never mind. Cheers"
"Cheers"

Thing is, that facelift ones are made by Prodrive and so rare that they currently fetch more on the black market than Turin Shrouds. Prefacelift are much more common.

Its the same story with dashboards, steering wheels, front/rear bumpers, side trims, alloys, seats, headlights, foglights, switchgear, bootlids, bonnets, you name it. There is SO much different on the facelift that I reckon it deserves a new designation, ie:

C

No one owns a Mk I Jag, technically but chat to the Jag owners club and everyone knows what you mean, the one that came before the Mk II, obviously! But it was never called that at the time.

I've essentially given up on the point, I only suggested it as I thought it made things clearer and easier.

As I say, the term 'facelitf' (oh, done it again!) if just as technically incorrect as the term 'C' but like I say, I'm too old and tired (26, and ready for the knackers yard already, really) to care!  :D :D :D :D
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Re: im confused
« Reply #5 on: 07 November 2010, 17:21:36 »

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I always thought that the Omega 'facelift' (which is, incidentally a term used across the industry, but totally unofficial) was called the 'C'
Only erroneously by Irmscher, and by unscrupulous egay sellers trying to make out their junk is something its not.

The 'industry' follows the official naming, which for all Vauxhall Omegas is Omega-B.

Like all cars, its been facelifted, so the 'industry' goes by Model Year (MY), hence why every (compitent) factor always asks for registration number when ordering parts.
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Re: im confused
« Reply #6 on: 07 November 2010, 19:55:34 »

Ah, true TheBoy. Though I was referring to everyone on this forum using the term 'facelift', which as you so rightly say, is an erroneous term  :y
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Re: im confused
« Reply #7 on: 07 November 2010, 20:14:33 »

The european designation for the facelift Omega is the Omega B2. I rarely see anyone from the UK call it that, but in Opel literature it's referred to as the B2 frequently.

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Re: im confused
« Reply #8 on: 07 November 2010, 20:28:44 »

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The european designation for the facelift Omega is the Omega B2. I rarely see anyone from the UK call it that, but in Opel literature it's referred to as the B2 frequently.

Now that makes sense, and also makes you think of this baby...

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Re: im confused
« Reply #9 on: 08 November 2010, 01:08:25 »

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i have a 2.5 omega cdx which i thought was a facelift untill i read this
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1266867411
now im like  :-/
i thought that a carlton was omega A
omega was omega B with a pre and a facelift
and the newest omega was omega C

now im like  :-?

Oh, tell me about it!

I always thought that the Omega 'facelift' (which is, incidentally a term used across the industry, but totally unofficial) was called the 'C', but please god, dont call it that on here, you'll get corrected like mad!

The 'B' is the model made from 1994-2003 (but sold upto 2004, so did it have a 9 or ten year run? Thats another story!)

As you rightly say the 'A' is what we all know and love the Carlton.

However, as around 45% of my life is spend mis-typing fcaelift or minni-flacelift or faclirt (well, you know what I mean) I suggested a while back that despite it being not technically correct, how about we all just refer to the facelift as the 'C'? the pre-facelift as the 'B' This would eliminate all the confusion as there's constantly people selling various parts, or asking for help on various cars like

"For sale Omega B MV6 spoiler 20quid"
"Which car mate?"
"B"
"Yeah but which, facelift and pre-faceflit are different"
"Sorry mate, it's pre-facelft"
"Oh, never mind. Cheers"
"Cheers"

Thing is, that facelift ones are made by Prodrive and so rare that they currently fetch more on the black market than Turin Shrouds. Prefacelift are much more common.

Its the same story with dashboards, steering wheels, front/rear bumpers, side trims, alloys, seats, headlights, foglights, switchgear, bootlids, bonnets, you name it. There is SO much different on the facelift that I reckon it deserves a new designation, ie:

C

No one owns a Mk I Jag, technically but chat to the Jag owners club and everyone knows what you mean, the one that came before the Mk II, obviously! But it was never called that at the time.

I've essentially given up on the point, I only suggested it as I thought it made things clearer and easier.

As I say, the term 'facelitf' (oh, done it again!) if just as technically incorrect as the term 'C' but like I say, I'm too old and tired (26, and ready for the knackers yard already, really) to care!  :D :D :D :D

even tho im still confused this little reply has made me smile  :y
and yes i mostly see things for sale on dodgebay as being for vectra B and C
and not as facelift or preface
so i have a 1999 t-reg mini facelift  :-[
not a facelift and thankfully not a C  :P
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Re: im confused
« Reply #10 on: 08 November 2010, 01:10:40 »

see im that confused i said vectra B & C i obviously meant Omega B & C
dont get me started with vectra's i also have 2 of them sat on the garden 1 being pre-face and the other being facelift plus they also make a Vec C and a Vec C facelift di you know  :D ;D ;D
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