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Kevin Wood

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Re: Banning of aftermarket HIDs (at last)?
« Reply #15 on: 09 November 2010, 18:54:49 »

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How could they justify MOT failure purely because an engine has been chipped. If it passes emissions, where,s the problem ? :-/

It could quite easily have changed the CO2 emissions, which is the basis of road tax, so affects tax revenue.

Having said that, I can't for one moment imagine that the chip tuners won't find a way around it. Can't be that hard to make the ECU look the same from the OBDII port, yet have totally different maps inside. It will stuff a lot of people who have had cars chipped, though, especially if they have flash based ECUs and no way to get back to a standard tune. ;D

Kit cars are the way forward. :y

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Re: Banning of aftermarket HIDs (at last)?
« Reply #16 on: 09 November 2010, 19:20:03 »

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Kit cars are the way forward. :y

Until they find a way to remove the SVA test ..

Hm. Best build one sooner rather than later ;D
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Re: Banning of aftermarket HIDs (at last)?
« Reply #17 on: 09 November 2010, 20:05:51 »

luckily for me i have 2 ecu,s!! one chipped one not and it takes moments to swap them!!! :y

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Re: Banning of aftermarket HIDs (at last)?
« Reply #18 on: 09 November 2010, 20:07:58 »

I think the banning of aftermarket hid kits would be excellent.
Factory fit Xenon headlights are excellent...I woud never have a car withough xenon's. I have seen far too many hid kits fitted which are very poor indeed. I will refuse to take any vehicle with an aftermarket hid kit fitted in p/x.
A few police forces do run chipped vehicles, but only a very small minority...I wonder if they'll fail then?

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Re: Banning of aftermarket HIDs (at last)?
« Reply #19 on: 09 November 2010, 20:09:42 »

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I`ve noticed a significant increase in the amount of severe dazzle from oncoming vehicles on unlit rural roads; the light more-often than not has the tell tale hue of HID......I have no doubt that properly aligned OEM HID`s or standard wattage OEM headlights are not to blame, as they seem to be easy to spot and are in an decreasing minority hereabouts.

Selfishly fitting aftermarket HID (w/o self levelling) or increased output and/or non 'E' conforming beam pattern lamps, can have severe consequences for other motorists on narrow/twisty/wet and unlit roads.
I`ve nearly been in a ditch on several occasions having been totally blinded by such lights (just as badly as if they`d been left on high beam).  :'(

It isn`t a 'them and us' MOT/VOSA issue.....there`s REAL danger to lives. :o


100% agreement with you there Debs .. :y :y :y :y :y :y
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Re: Banning of aftermarket HIDs (at last)?
« Reply #20 on: 09 November 2010, 20:19:59 »

Interesting read.

I agree that certain aftermarket light fitments could be dangerous.


Not sure about chips. The time a tester has to spend would increase if he had to find the right tester and plug it in and compare notes with standard. I suspect if a car looked standard then he wouldn't bother. If you think of all the souped up, chavved up or just plain modigfied cars in the Uk then quite rightly a mechanism should exist to weed out the dangerous ones.

I have mentioned before on here about the Spanish system using only state run modern facilities with no axe to grind. I like them. They even check the towbar and reject home made or none type approved jobs for example let alone none standard wheels and tyres (see my other post) . It is a bit farcical though as folk with non type approved towbars have been seen removing them in the waiting area and then refitting after the test! Howver if you are stopped towing with a trailer using a none type approved towbar then you are in BIG trouble.

Maybe the golden age of free for all car mods has been and gone. Now we are all drones..............  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Banning of aftermarket HIDs (at last)?
« Reply #21 on: 09 November 2010, 20:23:07 »

will not make a jot of difference.
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Re: Banning of aftermarket HIDs (at last)?
« Reply #22 on: 09 November 2010, 20:46:52 »

and theres me just about to fit my hids tomorrow :(
its ok though just remove them for mot time put them back in after job done :y
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Re: Banning of aftermarket HIDs (at last)?
« Reply #23 on: 09 November 2010, 20:47:47 »

my point exactly. :y
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Re: Banning of aftermarket HIDs (at last)?
« Reply #24 on: 09 November 2010, 21:09:36 »

Luckily I have a decent MOT tester who will let certain things go  - but is strict otherwise - known him 15 years.

As to HIDs, mine are fine - stiffish suspension and are not high, yes I have had a look.

The problems are actually factory fit HIDs on eg Range Rovers - they are too high to start with
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Re: Banning of aftermarket HIDs (at last)?
« Reply #25 on: 09 November 2010, 21:11:22 »

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The problems are actually factory fit HIDs on eg Range Rovers - they are too high to start with

Even worse when you're driving something low to the ground (MR2, MX5, Caterfield etc) - everything is higher than you and everything dazzles you.. can't see where I'm going half the time at night, I'm just driving into an oncoming blinding light.

Like a near death experience..
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Re: Banning of aftermarket HIDs (at last)?
« Reply #26 on: 09 November 2010, 21:14:20 »

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The problems are actually factory fit HIDs on eg Range Rovers - they are too high to start with

Even worse when you're driving something low to the ground (MR2, MX5, Caterfield etc) - everything is higher than you and everything dazzles you.. can't see where I'm going half the time at night, I'm just driving into an oncoming blinding light.

Like a near death experience..


I notice this along the lanes, new off roaders are the worst
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Re: Banning of aftermarket HIDs (at last)?
« Reply #27 on: 09 November 2010, 21:23:13 »

Anyone got a spare unchipped ECU for Tractor???  My old chip was butchered by the "expert" who did mine...

Don't know how they will police it though...
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Re: Banning of aftermarket HIDs (at last)?
« Reply #28 on: 09 November 2010, 21:26:27 »


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I`ve noticed a significant increase in the amount of severe dazzle from oncoming vehicles on unlit rural roads; the light more-often than not has the tell tale hue of HID......I have no doubt that properly aligned OEM HID`s or standard wattage OEM headlights are not to blame, as they seem to be easy to spot and are in an decreasing minority hereabouts.

Selfishly fitting aftermarket HID (w/o self levelling) or increased output and/or non 'E' conforming beam pattern lamps, can have severe consequences for other motorists on narrow/twisty/wet and unlit roads.
I`ve nearly been in a ditch on several occasions having been totally blinded by such lights (just as badly as if they`d been left on high beam).  :'(

It isn`t a 'them and us' MOT/VOSA issue.....there`s REAL danger to lives. :o
I'm totally with you on this Debs they are dangerous especially (i can imagine!) to older folks who's eyes can't adjust as fast as they used to i know you can lump me into that category also what really pickles my pepper is idiots that drive with fog lights on on wet roads when theres not a whisp of fog in sight is this the truck look or something >:(
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Re: Banning of aftermarket HIDs (at last)?
« Reply #29 on: 09 November 2010, 21:29:03 »

I hate fog lights - most common in town so they can look kewl in their shit boxes
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