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[Kevin Wood]

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What irritates me is the notion held by some people that FWD is just a convenience tool for unskilled drivers,  .......

But during last year's snow though, it did tend to be BMWs & Merc's stuck in the gutter with the rear wheels spinning like mad while her hands were white due to gripping the steering wheel with no clue what to do or even where the traction control switch was to turn it off. 

I saw a FWD car in the village car park in the snow last winter. It was literally bouncing off the rev limiter. Clueless driver appeared to be frustrated that she (yes, it was a "her") was pressing the "go" pedal and nothing was happening. I pointed out that she'd end up embedded in a parade of shops if she did find any traction. They walk among us.

Kevin

[aaronjb]

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What irritates me is the notion held by some people that FWD is just a convenience tool for unskilled drivers,  .......

But during last year's snow though, it did tend to be BMWs & Merc's stuck in the gutter with the rear wheels spinning like mad while her hands were white due to gripping the steering wheel with no clue what to do or even where the traction control switch was to turn it off. 

I saw a FWD car in the village car park in the snow last winter. It was literally bouncing off the rev limiter. Clueless driver appeared to be frustrated that she (yes, it was a "her") was pressing the "go" pedal and nothing was happening. I pointed out that she'd end up embedded in a parade of shops if she did find any traction. They walk among us.

Kevin

Only until they get run over by someone just like them ..

Must admit I was one of those people with the car bouncing off the limiter last year when I got stuck at the end of my road - no traction in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and my silly racing clutch doesn't allow enough slip to try 4th, 5th or 6th Every time it started to rock forward it'd slip and zip up to the limiter before I could get off the throttle.

Still.. it did mean that two people came and helped dig the car out of the snow drift .. probably because I woke them up 

[Andy B]

.....They walk among us.

Kevin

Indeed they do. I heard loads of people slating their BMW cos it was hopeless in the snow .....  :-?
I noticed in the highlands of Scotland though that on the whole they just got on with the weather, presumably as they generally get a bit more practice than most of us south of the border. 25-ish yrs ago Pompey got about 1/2" over night ..... the place ground to a halt.  :-?  :-? 

[turboteeth]

im honestly gobsmacked at all ive just read 
omegas are big and bulky made for comfort to big and heavy great big barges ?
your joking right?
i got another omega because of the power the way i can control the car and yes i drift mine on the track and late rainy nights usually 3am with no-one on the roads no good in the dry with big wheels cos it'll be bye bye tyres i aint no boy racer im 33 like to have fun in my motor i dont hurt anyone and if you drive around like a "grandad" nowadays your more of a menace than anyone else
im also a professional driver and drive for a living probably past more driving tests than most people and have had plenty of experience with most car set ups fwd rwd 4x4 on off road track days rally events banger racing grass track etc etc i dont go daft in busy times just have fun when the roads are bare i dont do it all the time but its fun when i do 

[turboteeth]

i take it all on here have leather and auto boxes?


dont drift with leather or an auto box it will cause damage to the box and you will be struggling to stay in the seat 

[albitz]

They can of course be drifted etc. but surely being so big and heavy are far from the ideal tool for the job.
In my experience a smaller lighter, similar powered car - rwd hatch type of thing is much better suited to the task. Never seen anyone rallying an Omega.

[Andy B]

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i got another omega because of the power the way i can control the car and yes i drift mine on the track and late rainy nights usually 3am with no-one on the roads no good in the dry with big wheels cos it'll be bye bye tyres i aint no boy racer im 33 like to have fun in my motor i dont hurt anyone and if you drive around like a "grandad" nowadays your more of a menace than anyone else
im also a professional driver and drive for a living probably past more driving tests than most people and have had plenty of experience with most car set ups fwd rwd 4x4 on off road track days rally events banger racing grass track etc etc i dont go daft in busy times just have fun when the roads are bare i dont do it all the time but its fun when i do 

Gasp! And breathe!!!!!!!!!!!! must've used up all your full stops elsewhere! 

[cem_devecioglu]

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[bluey]

im honestly gobsmacked at all ive just read 
omegas are big and bulky made for comfort to big and heavy great big barges ?
your joking right?

Ady, how would you describe a car that has 4 doors, big comfy seats, a decent size engine in the front, a large boot, wide tyres, a length of near enough 5 metres and a kerb weight of about 1,700Kg?   They're big, quiet,  comfortable and they're nicely quick when required.  So I don't really see why you're hyperventilating.

i got another omega because of the power the way i can control the car and yes i drift mine on the track and late rainy nights usually 3am with no-one on the roads no good in the dry with big wheels cos it'll be bye bye tyres i aint no boy racer im 33 like to have fun in my motor i dont hurt anyone and if you drive around like a "grandad" nowadays your more of a menace than anyone else.

im also a professional driver and drive for a living probably past more driving tests than most people and have had plenty of experience with most car set ups fwd rwd 4x4 on off road track days rally events banger racing grass track etc etc i dont go daft in busy times just have fun when the roads are bare i dont do it all the time but its fun when i do 

I think you'll find people refer to their driving style as 'grandad' to mean they drive well within their limits and respect road conditions and legal limits.  That's hardly being a menace, and if you have passed as many tests and are a professional driver as you claim then you should be more than aware of your responsibilities as a road user.