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Re: Tyres Follow on
« Reply #30 on: 27 November 2010, 20:47:48 »

Well I also like the SP9000's (9090's I think they became) but they can be a little noisy, however the V6 has SP Sport Maxx on it now and I think they are even noisier, fantastic grip though!

The DTi has just had Kumho KU31's on the back and first impressions are good, when i've done the wishbones etc i'll get the same on the front and see how they go, they certainly seem to have a lot of good reports from varied sources.
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« Reply #31 on: 27 November 2010, 21:14:29 »

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lizzie what pirelli's are they p6000 or p7 ?  constantly looking for a cheapish set for mine  :y
Pink ones... ?:-X.   ;)

Which of course will be absolutely fine when new, as my Falkens where. But, will degrade into something very difficult to keep straight as they wear, going by reports.


I wish Chris! :D :D :y :y

I've always fancied white wall tyres, but pink ones would be real cool!! 8-) 8-) 8-) :D :D :D

My Pirelli's full description is  Pirelli PZero Rosso 235/45 ZR 17 .  £100 per corner with discount ;) ;)

Just wondering Lizzie, where did you get them for £100 a corner...... (Mine are 255/35 ZR 18 though.)
Nice outfit BTW.
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« Reply #32 on: 27 November 2010, 21:31:46 »

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lizzie what pirelli's are they p6000 or p7 ?  constantly looking for a cheapish set for mine  :y
Pink ones... ?:-X.   ;)

Which of course will be absolutely fine when new, as my Falkens where. But, will degrade into something very difficult to keep straight as they wear, going by reports.


I wish Chris! :D :D :y :y

I've always fancied white wall tyres, but pink ones would be real cool!! 8-) 8-) 8-) :D :D :D

My Pirelli's full description is  Pirelli PZero Rosso 235/45 ZR 17 .  £100 per corner with discount ;) ;)

Just wondering Lizzie, where did you get them for £100 a corner...... (Mine are 255/35 ZR 18 though.)
Nice outfit BTW.

Tyreweb in Ashford probably  :y
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« Reply #33 on: 27 November 2010, 21:42:23 »

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lizzie what pirelli's are they p6000 or p7 ?  constantly looking for a cheapish set for mine  :y
Pink ones... ?:-X.   ;)

Which of course will be absolutely fine when new, as my Falkens where. But, will degrade into something very difficult to keep straight as they wear, going by reports.


I wish Chris! :D :D :y :y

I've always fancied white wall tyres, but pink ones would be real cool!! 8-) 8-) 8-) :D :D :D

My Pirelli's full description is  Pirelli PZero Rosso 235/45 ZR 17 .  £100 per corner with discount ;) ;)

Just wondering Lizzie, where did you get them for £100 a corner...... (Mine are 255/35 ZR 18 though.)
Nice outfit BTW.


An outfit down here called Tyreweb ;)

Usual price is around £126 each, but I know the manager well and he did me a good deal of £400 for the four, all in including computer wheel balance and valves of course 8-) 8-)  In his words his says he will "always look after me", and he does! :D :D :y :y 

To tell you the truth he even fitted the two spare front bake pads I had and adjusted the handbrake system complete for FREE, which saved me a job in the cold weather for once  :-* :-*  :D :D
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« Reply #34 on: 28 November 2010, 09:34:33 »

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Well I also like the SP9000's (9090's I think they became) but they can be a little noisy, however the V6 has SP Sport Maxx on it now and I think they are even noisier, fantastic grip though!

The DTi has just had Kumho KU31's on the back and first impressions are good, when i've done the wishbones etc i'll get the same on the front and see how they go, they certainly seem to have a lot of good reports from varied sources.
The 9090s where a one made for a manufacturer (Nissan?) and was a 9000 but with something done so it didn't need the sheen scubbed off it I believe?


I am looking at the Sport MAXX or Sport MAXX TT.  Would be interested in how you thought they compared to 9000/9090
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« Reply #35 on: 28 November 2010, 11:30:36 »

TT ain't cheap, and decided to go with sc3 in larger sizes as the 93y has rim protection in an 18".
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« Reply #36 on: 28 November 2010, 12:09:48 »

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I am looking at the Sport MAXX or Sport MAXX TT.  Would be interested in how you thought they compared to 9000/9090

I used to use sport Maxx. They were quite noisy, IMHO. Couldn't really fault the driving experience except that you don't want them on the front once they're more than half worn. Tramlining when part worn is quite bad.

They were a good value tyre, IMHO, when they were £90 but at £116 (special offer at blackcircles at the moment) they are a bit steep when you can get a KU31 for £85 and a SportContact 3 for £118.

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« Reply #37 on: 28 November 2010, 16:41:24 »

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I am looking at the Sport MAXX or Sport MAXX TT.  Would be interested in how you thought they compared to 9000/9090

I used to use sport Maxx. They were quite noisy, IMHO. Couldn't really fault the driving experience except that you don't want them on the front once they're more than half worn. Tramlining when part worn is quite bad.

They were a good value tyre, IMHO, when they were £90 but at £116 (special offer at blackcircles at the moment) they are a bit steep when you can get a KU31 for £85 and a SportContact 3 for £118.

Kevin
Or 118 for the MAX TT.  I prefer the sp9000s to sc3, do you think I would prefer the maxx to the sc3?
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« Reply #38 on: 28 November 2010, 19:42:30 »

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I am looking at the Sport MAXX or Sport MAXX TT.  Would be interested in how you thought they compared to 9000/9090

I used to use sport Maxx. They were quite noisy, IMHO. Couldn't really fault the driving experience except that you don't want them on the front once they're more than half worn. Tramlining when part worn is quite bad.

They were a good value tyre, IMHO, when they were £90 but at £116 (special offer at blackcircles at the moment) they are a bit steep when you can get a KU31 for £85 and a SportContact 3 for £118.

Kevin

Kevin sums it up really. I find they have plenty of grip in all conditions but the road noise is a bit intrusive, they haven't worn down enough to comment on the tramlining yet.

The DTi previously had Toyo T1R's on it which gave good grip even down to the 2mm that I changed them at, I'd certainly consider using them again, though the current price of KU31's means that if they perform as well as people say i'll probably be sticking to them in the future.

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« Reply #39 on: 28 November 2010, 19:56:09 »

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Or 118 for the MAX TT.  I prefer the sp9000s to sc3, do you think I would prefer the maxx to the sc3?

What didn't you like about SC3s?

SC3s are much quieter. Wear and grip about the same IIRC. I would say the main difference is that Sport Maxxs gave a bit more feedback. SC3s perhaps a lighter "understeery" feel to the steering and the KU31 a little more so?

Maybe this is why you were less keen on them? All 3 have the same level of grip wet and dry from what I can tell, but with the Dunlops you know where you are, with the SC3 and the KU31 you need increasing levels of confidence that it isn't going to let go. That's the main difference I can glean from them.

If noise isn't a big issue, and given that you are less keen on the SC3's, price being pretty much the same, I would try the Sport Maxx.

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« Reply #40 on: 28 November 2010, 20:05:05 »

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What didn't you like about SC3s?

SC3s are much quieter. Wear and grip about the same IIRC. I would say the main difference is that Sport Maxxs gave a bit more feedback. SC3s perhaps a lighter "understeery" feel to the steering and the KU31 a little more so?

Maybe this is why you were less keen on them? All 3 have the same level of grip wet and dry from what I can tell, but with the Dunlops you know where you are, with the SC3 and the KU31 you need increasing levels of confidence that it isn't going to let go. That's the main difference I can glean from them.

If noise isn't a big issue, and given that you are less keen on the SC3's, price being pretty much the same, I would try the Sport Maxx.

Kevin
I thought the SC3s were more slippery than SC2s, which in turn didn't seem to stick as well as the SP9000s.  The SC3s did used to give noticibly worse understeer (though was at a time when the MV6 was understeery anyway), yet didn't take much to get the back end out when wet.

Maybe you're right, maybe it is the feedback affecting confidence - I seem to be able to easily find the limit currently, and the car gives me the confidence to do so, not just in cornering, but also in deceleration (acceleration is a different kettle of fish with an auto)...

...oh decisions, decisions...

I've got a bit of time on my side, as they have a bit of life in them.  Maybe try some KU31s on the Elite that doesn't get driven as hard.  Actually, it doesn't really get driven...
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« Reply #41 on: 28 November 2010, 21:17:13 »

I previously had Continentals on mine, but since fitted Avon ZZ3's as they were cheaper than the Continentals and had good reviews. I have been impressed with their wet weather grip and they give plenty of warning when you are approaching their limits. :o :o :o

No experience of P9000's so I can't comment on these, used Dunlop SP's on a Volvo 960, they were a good all round tyre and good value for money, but wet weather grip not as good as the Avons or Continentals.

Never used Kumho KU31's so can't comment.

Tyres are a grudge purchase, but I have always had the attitude that tyres are cheap compared with the cost of the fuel it takes to wear them out and however good your brakes, suspension, steering are they all rely on that little patch of rubber in contact with the road.

To me wet weather performance is most important as that is when you are most likely to find a tyre wanting.  :o :o :o

Last few times I've bought tyres I got the cheapest deal I could find on the Internet where they an alliance with a local fitting centre. This has always been cheaper than phoning around and has worked well.  :)
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« Reply #42 on: 28 November 2010, 21:46:41 »

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Yep  :y :y have them all round and good in dry and wet...cost £75 each :y very happy with them
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« Reply #43 on: 29 November 2010, 09:03:21 »

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since fitted Avon ZZ3's as they were cheaper than the Continentals and had good reviews. I have been impressed with their wet weather grip and they give plenty of warning when you are approaching their limits. :o :o :o
Trouble is, their limits are pretty poor ;D.  Fortunately, they only lasted 4k before I had shredded them  :-[
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