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feeutfo

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Re: M3 Front wishbone bushes fitted with a hammer!
« Reply #15 on: 18 November 2010, 19:14:59 »

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But in this particular case, was amazed how easy they went in. I was expecting a right battle.   

Job well done. a case of ---'Miracles we can do now, the impossible might take a bit longer'   :y

Miracle failed. Can't get the second bush in fully. It's got about 5mill to go. Vice and bench nearly destroyed getting it in that far. If I had a more solid surface to strike onto, like an anvil  ::) I'd av it! This one considerably tighter.  :(
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Re: M3 Front wishbone bushes fitted with a hammer!
« Reply #16 on: 18 November 2010, 19:49:14 »

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But in this particular case, was amazed how easy they went in. I was expecting a right battle.   

Job well done. a case of ---'Miracles we can do now, the impossible might take a bit longer'   :y

Miracle failed. Can't get the second bush in fully. It's got about 5mill to go. Vice and bench nearly destroyed getting it in that far. If I had a more solid surface to strike onto, like an anvil  ::) I'd av it! This one considerably tighter.  :(


Probably to late now, but a smidgen of Fairy liquid may have been all that was needed.

My money is on a result -- eventually.   :y
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« Reply #17 on: 18 November 2010, 21:10:57 »

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But in this particular case, was amazed how easy they went in. I was expecting a right battle.   

Job well done. a case of ---'Miracles we can do now, the impossible might take a bit longer'   :y

Miracle failed. Can't get the second bush in fully. It's got about 5mill to go. Vice and bench nearly destroyed getting it in that far. If I had a more solid surface to strike onto, like an anvil  ::) I'd av it! This one considerably tighter.  :(


Probably to late now, but a smidgen of Fairy liquid may have been all that was needed.

My money is on a result -- eventually.   :y
They where lightly oiled...
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Re: M3 Front wishbone bushes fitted with a hammer!
« Reply #18 on: 18 November 2010, 22:28:56 »

I have a 20 ton press and various drifts etc at work if you get really stuck.

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Re: M3 Front wishbone bushes fitted with a hammer!
« Reply #19 on: 18 November 2010, 22:32:09 »

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But in this particular case, was amazed how easy they went in. I was expecting a right battle.   

Job well done. a case of ---'Miracles we can do now, the impossible might take a bit longer'   :y

Miracle failed. Can't get the second bush in fully. It's got about 5mill to go. Vice and bench nearly destroyed getting it in that far. If I had a more solid surface to strike onto, like an anvil  ::) I'd av it! This one considerably tighter.  :(


Probably to late now, but a smidgen of Fairy liquid may have been all that was needed.

My money is on a result -- eventually.   :y
They where lightly oiled...

Did you oil both, Chris? Because MDTM posted this earlier:


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Sometimes the new bushes go in ok, sometimes they are tight, dependent on manufacturing tolerances I guess.

Rears are easy enough to press in.

TIS does state that the front one can have a wipe of oil around it before fitting but the rear must be fitted dry.
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feeutfo

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Re: M3 Front wishbone bushes fitted with a hammer!
« Reply #20 on: 19 November 2010, 01:44:46 »

Both fronts, I don't have the rearwards yet, coming tomorrow from allgerman and will be fitted dry, as master says.

Rearward bush not as easy to get out either, centre spacer has a considerable bulge within the bush, almost ball like. No line of sight directly through the rubber so hadcto drill through with increasing diameter drill bits. Broke two drills.  >:(
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feeutfo

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Re: M3 Front wishbone bushes fitted with a hammer!
« Reply #21 on: 19 November 2010, 01:47:40 »

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I have a 20 ton press and various drifts etc at work if you get really stuck.

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Thanks Lee, might come to that.  ;D  ;)
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Re: M3 Front wishbone bushes fitted with a hammer!
« Reply #22 on: 19 November 2010, 11:55:06 »

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Both fronts, I don't have the rearwards yet, coming tomorrow from allgerman and will be fitted dry, as master says.

Rearward bush not as easy to get out either, centre spacer has a considerable bulge within the bush, almost ball like. No line of sight directly through the rubber so hadcto drill through with increasing diameter drill bits. Broke two drills.  >:(

Ahh got you - I thought you were doing both bushes on one wishbone.. but one bush on two wishbones makes much more sense now I think back to the photo you posted  :-[

Thought of you this morning btw, as I went through 'that' junction to the M3 and hit the brakes .. and then realised I was only doing 40 in a 50 anyway ;D
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Re: M3 Front wishbone bushes fitted with a hammer!
« Reply #23 on: 19 November 2010, 14:45:01 »

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Both fronts, I don't have the rearwards yet, coming tomorrow from allgerman and will be fitted dry, as master says.

Rearward bush not as easy to get out either, centre spacer has a considerable bulge within the bush, almost ball like. No line of sight directly through the rubber so hadcto drill through with increasing diameter drill bits. Broke two drills.  >:(

Ahh got you - I thought you were doing both bushes on one wishbone.. but one bush on two wishbones makes much more sense now I think back to the photo you posted  :-[

Thought of you this morning btw, as I went through 'that' junction to the M3 and hit the brakes .. and then realised I was only doing 40 in a 50 anyway ;D
I think it's the 50 on a dual carriage way that throws me down there. A lot of queues during rush hour so fair enough round those bends (over that rise/down the dip/under the bridge) prior to those lights m3 bound, but on the straight??? 50? Nah  :-[;D  how to learn patience? I mean at the time of night I got flashed the road was almost empty ffs.  >:(.   (Sigh)
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Re: M3 Front wishbone bushes fitted with a hammer!
« Reply #24 on: 19 November 2010, 14:55:27 »

Thread drift here but :) I think the 50 limit is more for traffic going in the other direction and the bit with the village on it - the junctions that join the dual carriageway when you're heading toward Bracknell have 20yd visibility as you merge due to the hills - you certainly don't want to hang around as you pull on.

But yeah.. I'm not a patient man either, I was only doing 40 due to the traffic ;D
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feeutfo

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Re: M3 Front wishbone bushes fitted with a hammer!
« Reply #25 on: 30 November 2010, 19:14:16 »

Fitted these at the weekend. Steering is nice and tight.... :y


But they are harsh. Much more solid construction than omega bushes obviously. Assuming Polly will be firmer, i will not be fitting anything other than Omega bushes in future. Unless something slightly firmer can be found, as opposed to very firm like these m3 bushes. Can't see Polly being a better solution IMO? Other than life span of course.  :-/. ....?
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Re: M3 Front wishbone bushes fitted with a hammer!
« Reply #26 on: 30 November 2010, 20:02:50 »

And the fact that you don't need to fit them with a sledgehammer? ;)
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feeutfo

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Re: M3 Front wishbone bushes fitted with a hammer!
« Reply #27 on: 30 November 2010, 20:47:57 »

...and bounce the entire contents of the bench onto the floor, almost including the pilar drill.  :D
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aaronjb

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Re: M3 Front wishbone bushes fitted with a hammer!
« Reply #28 on: 30 November 2010, 20:52:38 »

 ;D

I wonder if the extra harshness has anything to do with the offset center on these? Or whether you're getting any binding anywhere that's directly transferring vibrations?

It seems odd that they'd be so much harsher - the M3 is known for it's handling, but I thought it was still a 'refined' car..
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feeutfo

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Re: M3 Front wishbone bushes fitted with a hammer!
« Reply #29 on: 30 November 2010, 21:22:48 »

Can't see the 1.5 mill off set making much odds, :-/  not as much deviation from stock as failed omega bushes would alter the camber to wear the tyres on the inside edge. Or certainly no worse...

The plastic insert is far more substantial on the m3 bush. It sits much closer to the outside edge. Omega plastic insert is miles away by comparison.

Rearward bush is stock.

It needs set up, tomorrow, it still seems to dive into dips in the road surface rather than ride them, and I've lowered the tyre pressures just to see but I'm not hopefull any of that will affect the ride in any way. Can feel the differance as the front hits a bump first, it's harsher than the rear.


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