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[Osprey]

As above - is it legal to drive a car that has been refused an MoT if it still has time left on its old ticket?

My younger daughter has been offered a scrap car for beer money, with six months of MoT still left.  She is proposing to put it through an MoT now just to get an idea of any safety issues that need to be fixed.  She wants to know if she can still drive it if it fails on air freshener or the like. 

[albitz]

I dont think so.New MOT test cancels out the previous one afaIK.

[Jimbob]

there are 2 varietys of fail...

1 its quite legal to drive home on, regardless of ticket length left - could have already expired and you took it for a test - you have to get it home / place of repair 

the other means trailer time....quite unusal I beleive.

[belldarr]

I asked about this when I took mine for an MOT a couple of months ago  - incredibly the old MOT is still valid if it still has time to run if the car fails the new MOT.

Darren

[hotel21]

My understanding is that a new test fail does not cancel an existing ticket unless it fails for being dangerous for use on a road.

Think blown headlight versus accident damage/wheel falling off. 

[Andy B]

....  - incredibly the old MOT is still valid if it still has time to run if the car fails the new MOT.

Darren

Using H21's example, why is it incredible?   :-? A car could be un-roadworthy with or without an MOT

[Osprey]

That was part of my daughter's reasoning - it's and old car and an unknown car, so it probably has issues. 

She could drive it legally for six months, ignoring any problems, then get a shock at MoT time.  Or she could shove it in for a test now and prioritise any necessary work whilst driving legally on the old ticket. 

Makes some sense to me but I wasn't sure if the law agreed.  Looks like perhaps it does. 

[sticka_v8_init]

My understanding is that a new test fail does not cancel an existing ticket unless it fails for being dangerous for use on a road.

Think blown headlight versus accident damage/wheel falling off. 

Agreed, and to be honest an MOT is really only a road worthy guarantee on the day. Hit a pot hole next day and all bets are off

[Vamps]

That was part of my daughter's reasoning - it's and old car and an unknown car, so it probably has issues. 

She could drive it legally for six months, ignoring any problems, then get a shock at MoT time.  Or she could shove it in for a test now and prioritise any necessary work whilst driving legally on the old ticket. 

Makes some sense to me but I wasn't sure if the law agreed.  Looks like perhaps it does. 

Why take it for an MOT, why not just take it to a trusted independent for a 'once over' that is what I would do......

[belldarr]

....  - incredibly the old MOT is still valid if it still has time to run if the car fails the new MOT.


Darren

Using H21's example, why is it incredible?   :-? A car could be un-roadworthy with or without an MOT

Well Andy I was suprised that the powers that be hadn't decided that the most recent test would get the deciding vote and would render the prior MOT invalid, it sounds like the original poster was thinking along those lines too - hence it was incredible....

Darren

[feeutfo]

It was always the case, certainly before the MOT system was overhauled and computerised, that the old ticket stood for a year reguardless.

Hence it made sense to test it a couple off days early giving the owner time to make repairs before expirey.

However the was a rumour that this had been changed since computerisation and once failed on any issue it had failed and that was that. No Mot!  Indeed I posted similar on here, and after some debate I think the old rule still stood.

However don't take my word for it, a simple phone call to a test centre will confirm, but also testing any car during summer or warmer months is always a good idea over a winter due date. Changing donut bushes or working on any car in the snow is never pleasant...

[Osprey]

Thanks Chris Toady, and everybody else. 

My trusted local independent has lost my trust recently - staff changes mainly - but I think they can still do an MoT test fairly.  I'll have a word and see what they say. 

[tigers_gonads]

I think you will find that since the mot's went "on line", the new ticket superseads the old one  :-/

Basicly, once the mot tester logs on and enters the details of your car into the system, the old ticket is invalid.

[aaronjb]

I had this earlier in the year with the MR2 - checking the online MOT checker shows it still has a valid MOT even after a fail has been recorded (as long as the original MOT has time to run), just with a note that there is a further record that is not a pass.

[feeutfo]

I think you will find that since the mot's went "on line", the new ticket superseads the old one  :-/

Basicly, once the mot tester logs on and enters the details of your car into the system, the old ticket is invalid.

That was precisely the concern previously mentioned yes.  :-/

Not exactly clear it seems. Or if it was clear I've forgotten the outcome.