complete newbie with large engine problem *update*

[bexandpower]

Just would like to say thanks to everyone that posted before. You have all been a great help.

Well the update is that i have had the car droppped home and had n independant mechanic look at it. He has pointed the finger at the garage where i got it fixed originally. Went out and took some photos of what he described as "shoddy workmanship". It would appear to do witht ht etiming cover rubber and that half of it is inside the timing cover. So i re approched the garge that fitted the belt kit this evening and one mech piped up and said "its not uncommen for these to throw a valve" I thought myself at the time i was just getting fobbed off i mean is this a common thing??? I would love to know

ok fist time i have tried to post pics but here goes.



ok this is the left bank where the rubber is visible.




And on the right bank (passenger side) the rubber has dissapeared into the cam cover.

Im guessing that this may be at least part of the reason that the can belt has failed.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Throw a valve....the guys a fool, give him a slap and shout 'fool' at him.

Thats disgraceful workmanship, I hope its not slipped the belt a tooth or two......still they are liable given the awful quality of the work done.

[bexandpower]

Throw a valve....the guys a fool, give him a slap and shout 'fool' at him.

Thats disgraceful workmanship, I hope its not slipped the belt a tooth or two......still they are liable given the awful quality of the work done.

Trust me i wanted to. The belt has slipped thats why i was getting a terrible nocking sound from the engine looks like my valves are f**ed. I hop e they are liable and that they actually hold their hands up and be honest about it but i can't see them volunteering for 2 days work and an engine strip

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[bexandpower]

So do you guys think that the theory that the rubber has got caught in the cam workings is plausable?

[bexandpower]

So i take it chances that it has just "thrown a valve" are pretty remote yeah?

[ANDY8]

Very remote, These engines are one of the best and super reliable, Take the mechanic outside and slap him until he admits he is wrong  

[omegaV6CD]

One of the moments where you wish that life was a movie and you Steven seagal walking in the mechanics shop being told that these engine throw a valve or two and then there is a blur and the sound of bones snapping.
Idiots, they try to get away by bulshiting the customer. spanermonkeys. Please whatever you do do not let them touch the engine again, ask them to give you compensation.

[Markie]

the engines are bombproof on omegas particularly the v6 unless of course you fix them in a cowboy fashion - these guys clearly have  .

Take further legal advice and speak to someone higher up at the garage. To be honest a monkey would be progression from the fool that worked on your car.

Keep us all posted  

[Matchless]

Get some advice from Trading Standards or Citizens Advice, you will need evidence of the damage and likely cause to prove negligence so see if your independant mechanics word would be acceptable, perhaps get him to dismantle it and write a report, including photos at each stage of dismantling and showing the cam timing marks when the crank is at TDC. A video would be even better.

[Eliteman Steve]

Throw a valve....the guys a fool, give him a slap and shout 'fool' at him.

Thats disgraceful workmanship, I hope its not slipped the belt a tooth or two......still they are liable given the awful quality of the work done.

Trust me i wanted to. The belt has slipped thats why i was getting a terrible nocking sound from the engine looks like my valves are f**ed. I hop e they are liable and that they actually hold their hands up and be honest about it but i can't see them volunteering for 2 days work and an engine strip

Sorry to hear of your problems mate , the guys at this garage sound like a right bunch of BARSTEWARDS!!

[Markjay]

Get some advice from Trading Standards or Citizens Advice, you will need evidence of the damage and likely cause to prove negligence so see if your independant mechanics word would be acceptable, perhaps get him to dismantle it and write a report, including photos at each stage of dismantling and showing the cam timing marks when the crank is at TDC. A video would be even better.

If the garage is a member of a trade assocaition, contact them first.

Also try:

http://www.rmif.co.uk/consumers.aspx
http://www.rmif.co.uk/association.aspx?id=2

If you go to 'Find a Service', you should be able to tell if the garage is listed with RMIF.

[bexandpower]

One of the moments where you wish that life was a movie and you Steven seagal walking in the mechanics shop being told that these engine throw a valve or two and then there is a blur and the sound of bones snapping.
Idiots, they try to get away by bulshiting the customer. spanermonkeys. Please whatever you do do not let them touch the engine again, ask them to give you compensation.

yeah was wshing for  jet li moment lol Well gonna try whatever i can to get this fixed asap

[bexandpower]

Get some advice from Trading Standards or Citizens Advice, you will need evidence of the damage and likely cause to prove negligence so see if your independant mechanics word would be acceptable, perhaps get him to dismantle it and write a report, including photos at each stage of dismantling and showing the cam timing marks when the crank is at TDC. A video would be even better.

Would be nice although nice mr independant want £300 +VAT to do that

[bexandpower]

Get some advice from Trading Standards or Citizens Advice, you will need evidence of the damage and likely cause to prove negligence so see if your independant mechanics word would be acceptable, perhaps get him to dismantle it and write a report, including photos at each stage of dismantling and showing the cam timing marks when the crank is at TDC. A video would be even better.

If the garage is a member of a trade assocaition, contact them first.

Also try:

http://www.rmif.co.uk/consumers.aspx
http://www.rmif.co.uk/association.aspx?id=2

If you go to 'Find a Service', you should be able to tell if the garage is listed with RMIF.

So if they are a member they will have certain codes of conduct to adhere to then?