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Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« on: 15 June 2007, 22:30:00 »
I have a hunch my gearbox has died on the Elite >:(

I was driving on the M4 tonight. Giving it some welly, I kicked it down, it changed down, pulled, and all of a sudden the rev needle shot up to rev line, but no power was going to back wheels.

Then the gearbox dropped into limp mode, with Automatic gearbox on the MID.

I turned off and restarted the car on the hard shoulder... the box was not in limp mode. I put the car back into D, hit the gas, and it just revved (as if it was in neutral) and went nowhere. Once revved, it goes to limp mode. Doesn't work in any gear, inc reverse.

There were no nasty noises, no warning signs, no signs of ATF etc.

Gearbox? Torque Converter?

I did think Prop or Diff, but guess this is unlikely, as it holds the car when in Park.

Would really appreciate thoughts.

If I need to change the box, then I need to source and change it PRONTO.... (ideally tomorrow!!)


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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #1 on: 15 June 2007, 22:34:52 »
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Would really appreciate thoughts.

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I think I'd be looking for another gearbox :( It cost me the best part of a grand when I had next to no drive in my Senator.  :'(
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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #2 on: 15 June 2007, 22:36:11 »
It does sound like the gearbox :( You will need to find an autogearbox specailist near you to see if you can get one fitted tomorrow but very doubtful, I would imagine it would be done sometime next week if your lucky! :( Hope you get sorted soon.
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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #3 on: 15 June 2007, 22:36:44 »
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Would really appreciate thoughts.

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I think I'd be looking for another gearbox :( It cost me the best part of a grand when I had next to no drive in my Senator.  :'(

I have NO Drive.

And all it will cost me is the Box... I can change it myself...
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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #4 on: 15 June 2007, 22:38:05 »
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It does sound like the gearbox :( You will need to find an autogearbox specailist near you to see if you can get one fitted tomorrow but very doubtful, I would imagine it would be done sometime next week if your lucky! :( Hope you get sorted soon.

Get it fitted??  Let some Monkey work on my car? >:(

I think not... I will be putting on some rubber gloves and getting out the Axle stands....

I just need a box!

Wonder how many more boxes I'll be changing ...  ::)
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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #5 on: 15 June 2007, 22:42:23 »
Well I'm delivering one to Jaime on Sunday morning..... ;D

Just a thought though. Just because the car holds in park does not rule out the torque convertor or the diff (although if diff went wheels could lock).

The park mechanism is more mechanical and has no bearing on the diff or tc.
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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #6 on: 15 June 2007, 22:42:36 »
I really hate to say I told you so, but you was warned that an AR25 would be ripped to shreds by 3.0l engine.  Serves you bloody well right ;D
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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #7 on: 15 June 2007, 22:43:19 »
Really sorry to hear this. What a git!

I think if it was a diff you'd have heard a lot of protesting before it let go, and you wouldn't have braking in park as you point out.

It can only be something internal to the gearbox.   :'(

Time to find an AR35 I guess.

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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #8 on: 15 June 2007, 22:43:54 »
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I have NO Drive.

And all it will cost me is the Box... I can change it myself...

I thought that's what you'd be doing ... a 'new-to-you' gearbox to be fitted.
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« Reply #9 on: 15 June 2007, 22:44:55 »
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I really hate to say I told you so, but you was warned that an AR25 would be ripped to shreds by 3.0l engine.  Serves you bloody well right ;D

 :'(

To be honest, I am not at all upset. Reason being, I never expected, or really wanted, the AR25 to last.

Reason for fitting the AR25, was to determine whether the gearbox was the problem causing the limp mode to keep occuring.

So - I see it that I've done what I wanted to achieve there.

Plus, I've now got the experience I need to change it without worrying.

Just need to determine for sure this is G/B...
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« Reply #10 on: 15 June 2007, 22:46:30 »
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I really hate to say I told you so, but you was warned that an AR25 would be ripped to shreds by 3.0l engine.
Specifically, here http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1178968898/#8
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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #11 on: 15 June 2007, 22:48:31 »
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I really hate to say I told you so, but you was warned that an AR25 would be ripped to shreds by 3.0l engine.
Specifically, here http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1178968898/#8

Yes yes yes... not denying that. But I still maintain we were right, to fit the FREE AR25.

It proved there were no electrical problems, so now I'm happy to source an AR35!!

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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #12 on: 15 June 2007, 22:49:28 »
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I really hate to say I told you so, but you was warned that an AR25 would be ripped to shreds by 3.0l engine.
Specifically, here http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1178968898/#8

Yes yes yes... not denying that. But I still maintain we were right, to fit the FREE AR25.

It proved there were no electrical problems, so now I'm happy to source an AR35!!

Yes, but you should have been looking for one. Now your main transport has let you down.
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Re: Broke down on M4 - No Drive To Rear Wheels
« Reply #14 on: 15 June 2007, 22:53:29 »
Now if anyone else was acting quite as smug as Jaime is right now, they would be in serious danger of the post count diminshing rather rapidly for being a smart a*se! ;D

Oh yes, James was right to try the AR25 at the time. It was the most cost effectiive means of problem solving at the time.

I am suprised it died quite so quickly though.... James, you been doing F1 launches from the traffic lights again??  ;)
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