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petrol pump failure
« on: 05 September 2007, 19:44:26 »

went to my car dinner time, turned the key and no purr. man came out and says petrol pump has gone. no sound or movement when key turned on, sometimes you heard a short whirr but now nothing.tried squirting a bit of easy start through air feed to check if ignition ok and it fired. checked fuse 18 thats ok.
removed plate in boot and removed electrical plug from pump. there are 4 wires so i assume two are for the fuel gauge and two for the fuel pump, question 1 if i connect a test lamp to check power is getting there, should it come on when i turn the ignition on or does it rely on any thing elsewhere (any one know which wires are which) or question 2 is it best to remove the pump completely then connect to a power supply and last but not least question 3 how many types of pump are there as local motor factors says there are two. they gave me two numbers, x1093313 and x1093314. can any one shed any light on this please and thank you, these may be chassis numbers, one costs twice as much as the other but should be cheaper buying on the net
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Re: petrol pump failure
« Reply #1 on: 05 September 2007, 19:52:26 »

just checked, its not clear :(

they look like chassis numbers, however, I suspect the last 8 digits of your chassis number is S1xxxxxx
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Re: petrol pump failure
« Reply #2 on: 05 September 2007, 21:14:18 »

checked chassis number and is what you suggested. been researching on net and have found pump i want (vx part number 9120218,  pump made by bosch) thanks. x1093314 relates to 94-99 omega, x1093313 up to 94.will take pump out and check by connecting to another battery before i order the new one....cheers michael
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Re: petrol pump failure
« Reply #3 on: 05 September 2007, 22:30:56 »

I had an intermittant starting problem that turned out to be the petrol pump sticking, it was the first thing I robbed off my HG failure donor car. saved me £150+ VAT on a pump

When I had mine out, I connected it up to a battery and confirmed that it was sticking as it would only work if it was given a tap. It worked really well the next day when I syphoned 60 litres out of the donor  :)

Not that common a failure I believe, so you may get away with a second hand one from one that is being stripped!

Not had any problem with my replacement.
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Re: petrol pump failure
« Reply #4 on: 06 September 2007, 08:09:26 »

I assume the fuel pump relay has been ruled out......and that there is no code 19 stored in the ecu?
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Re: petrol pump failure
« Reply #5 on: 06 September 2007, 12:53:27 »

if you need a pump let me know have a spare for sale  :y
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Re: petrol pump failure
« Reply #6 on: 06 September 2007, 19:33:54 »

took the pump out ,connected it up to spare batteryand away it went. no power at connector in boot so where do i find the pump relay as suggested and can i swap it with another one just to check it
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Re: petrol pump failure
« Reply #7 on: 06 September 2007, 19:42:45 »

Checked the Tech Info forum and found this...

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1176560725

hope this helps.

(but would also suggest changing the fuse, or circuit testing it, not simply pulling it and just giving it a visual....)
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Re: petrol pump failure
« Reply #8 on: 06 September 2007, 20:47:20 »

many thanks for the info. will treat myself to a circuit tester tomorrow.swapped the two violet relays over  but still no power in boot connector so it could be the circuit  which fuse 18 protects. im getting withdrawal symptoms now , some how my mates nissan micra aint just the same but at least it gets us to work.
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Re: petrol pump failure
« Reply #9 on: 06 September 2007, 20:54:54 »

Don't need a circuit tester.  Get a battery out a smoke detector and a bulb out of a household torch of compatible (9 volt) value.  Short the bulb over the battery terminals to ensure it works.  Then guddle with the fuse, the bulb and the battery to ensure a complete circuit.  If the lamp lights, fuse is OK.  If not, try another fuse.....   :y
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Re: petrol pump failure
« Reply #10 on: 07 September 2007, 16:03:01 »

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Don't need a circuit tester.  Get a battery out a smoke detector and a bulb out of a household torch of compatible (9 volt) value.  Short the bulb over the battery terminals to ensure it works.  Then guddle with the fuse, the bulb and the battery to ensure a complete circuit.  If the lamp lights, fuse is OK.  If not, try another fuse.....   :y


Whats a "guddle"  ;)
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Re: petrol pump failure
« Reply #11 on: 07 September 2007, 16:07:26 »

'Guddle' is a fine Scots word, the essence of which means to play with, fiddle around, be in a mess with or similar.  In the context given, try to link all three items together into an electrical circuit by use of only two hands.........

If you do not guddle correctly, you could end up in a right guddle, as it were.....   :D
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Re: petrol pump failure
« Reply #12 on: 07 September 2007, 18:49:49 »

well i had a  good guddle ;D. borowed a circuit tester from work and there is no power in the circuit. daughters boyfriend burt(not his real name) suggested that it could be an emergency fuel cut off switch. are they fitted to an omega?and if so where?
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Re: petrol pump failure
« Reply #13 on: 07 September 2007, 19:17:50 »

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'Guddle' is a fine Scots word, the essence of which means to play with, fiddle around, be in a mess with or similar.  In the context given, try to link all three items together into an electrical circuit by use of only two hands.........

If you do not guddle correctly, you could end up in a right guddle, as it were.....   :D
And there was me thinking you made these expressions up as you go along. ;D
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Re: petrol pump failure
« Reply #14 on: 07 September 2007, 19:19:31 »

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well i had a  good guddle ;D. borowed a circuit tester from work and there is no power in the circuit. daughters boyfriend burt(not his real name) suggested that it could be an emergency fuel cut off switch. are they fitted to an omega?and if so where?
Don't think they are fitted mate, but I could be wrong.
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